Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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      5 months ago

      but it’s a foreign actor so OOooooOOWwwwooOOOO sCaRrRey!

      I love that people think this is a solid own. Lest we forget Hong Kong, or an impending hot war in Taiwan or building out extradition systems with an expanding network of countries to forcibly repatriate and torture dissidents and human rights lawyers.

      You used to not have to explain why authoritarianism was bad.

      Edit: I would love to know the Pro side of what happened in Hong Kong, or the forced extradition regime, since evidently I’m clearly in the wrong in thinking those were bad. What am I missing?

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        It used to not be necessary because democracies used to have moral authority but since the revelations of Manning and Snowden non-Americans see no difference between giving our data to the USA or to China or any other. We also know from the reaction to the war in Ukraine and Gaza that human rights claims are only sometimes used.

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        Realistically what is the worst thing China is doing with your private data? Selling it? If you’re not a Chinese National, at least you don’t fall under their jurisdiction.

        If you’re a U.S. citizen, with all the tech oligarchs cozying up to the current administration, I’d be a lot more concerned with Facebook/Twitter/Etc collecting your data.

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          5 months ago

          The CCP is significantly more oppressive, gives zero shits about human rights or trademarks or really anyone at all. The US at least pretends to care.

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                5 months ago

                For the past week the people of China and the United States, as well as other countries have been comparing notes. Debunking propaganda on both sides. Realizing that much of what we’ve all been told for years/decades, has been lies.

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                    For starters, that the Uyghur genocide is yet another piece of atrocity propaganda from the US. We know what a genocide looks like and how it’s impossible to hide in the modern world, as Gaza showed.

                    Blurry satellite pictures of buildings and a German fascist swearing it for ten pages (financed by Raytheon and Lockheed-Martin) isn’t proof.