I have been rather unhappy with my smart TV’s functionality as I feel it isn’t smart for me but smart for the manufacturers. I just can’t use it how I want to. I would love to overwrite the existing OS from Android to Linux. I’ve recently converted from Windows and loving Mint.

I haven’t read too much regarding Linux smart tvs as my searches mostly come up with raspberry Pi and overwriting an Android box. I don’t want to connect anything and just want my tv to boot up in Linux when it’s turned on, and get some of my apps going. Is there a way to do this?

For reference I have a Sony Bravia with Android installed on it.

  • hansolo@lemmy.today
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    Well, technically Android IS a type of Linux.

    But your solution is to not use the smart functions of a Smart TV. Do a factory reset of your TV and get some sort of external device like an Amazon Fire Stick or Apple TV or Raspbery pi or even a Linux Laptop. Treat your TV like a monitor for a small computer. Relying on the TV is the worst possible scenario.

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    You already got your answer so I won’t repeat them. You cannot even replace the live TV app on your smart TV. I spent a somewhat huge time to fix what’s wrong on my mother’s TV but sadly best I could do was sideloading apps and blocking ad channels on pi-hole. Probably the best way is to buy Raspberry-Pi and install LibreElec. At least that’s I’ll suggest next time we need such device.

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      Agreed, ditch the idea of trying to run an OS on the TV itself. It’s not worth it.

      The TV is best used as a TV and nothing more. Plug a small computer into the back of it using one of the many video/audio ports which exist for just such a purpose.

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        people used to put linux on toasters and now we can’t do that anymore. lol

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          You can do it, it just isn’t worth the effort. The hardware is anemic at best and you’re bound to be missing drivers for some specialty chip.

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            it was also done back in the 90’s so it’s likely no a possibility anymore.

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            i’ve only seen it done once and, even then, i’m not sure if it was real or not.

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    I dont connect my tv’s os to the internet and use a dedicated mini pc for kodi or youtube/twitch in the browser. Cuz i have quite some performance in the mini pc; i also use to emulate some games.

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    If you can unlock the bootloader, it might be possible to install a Halium distro like Droidian on it. I wouldn’t recommend doing so, however, and there will be missing functionality, such as being able to use any video inputs or watch live TV. It will basically be a large smartphone without a touchscreen.

    Instead, I recommend disconnecting your TV from the internet and connecting an external device to it as others have recommended. See if there’s a way to autoboot your TV to an HDMI input. You can also get a USB CEC adapter to use your TV’s remote on your external device for something like Kodi, for instance.

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    I’ll answer your question right now without beating around this bush, what you are asking is simply impossible. In fact I will take it one step further, not only is your request not possible using your preexisting TV there is no such consumer TV that you can purchase as of now that will just run Linux. Furthermore there is not a single Linux distro as of now designed to run internally inside of TVs (there are distros for set top boxes, not TVs).

    Is it possible in theory?

    Possibly but until a single confirmed case of a successful Linux installation on a TV is found I will consider this impossible (furthermore the chances that the successful Linux installation occurs on your specific model of TV is slim).

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      Agreed. Theoretically possible, but practically not possible unless you are an embedded hardware engineer with access to Sony’s datasheets and potentially crypto keys. Some sort of external box is much more practical.

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        The requirements to make replacement Linux firmware for a TV would be

        1. A degree in CompSci
        2. Experience in hardware engineering
        3. Extensive knowledge of the TV circuitry
        4. All low level schematics of the TV
        5. Extensive knowledge of the processor used
        6. Extensive knowlage of the original firmware and boot process
        7. Extensive knowledge of embedded Linux systems (most likley Alpine)
        8. Kernel sources for the TV OS as well as somehow gaining acess to all firmware files
        9. Extensive knowledge on low level internal TV communication protocols

        At that point just make your own smart TV using a commercial display

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          You won’t need EE knowledge, that’s all abstracted away in silicon. You just need to know how to drive the chips, and they’ll manage the inputs and outputs.

          I doubt the TV OS is any kind of Linux. Usually embedded systems run something like vxworks. Sometimes Minix. Real fancy ones run Android (which is derived from Linux, yes).

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    It would be lovely if we could just boot a TV specialized Linux distro.

    Sadly I don’t think it’s going to appear soon except if someone (a conpany) decides to create a niche product filling that need.

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    Well you already have Linux on your TV. Unfortunately it’s android which is capitalist crap. They’ll no doubt make it extremely difficult to remove their malware. Even if you could overwrite, you would still be using the shitty computer inside your TV.

    Like other people have said, I think the best solution is using an external machine. I use an older laptop running Kodi for my TV. It’s pretty awesome. Just make sure your machine has the specs for your needs. It shouldn’t be hard to find something more powerful than the TV.

  • Hmm if you plan on using streaming services it’s a massive hassle tbh. You can get away with using web apps with some sort of launcher, but even then you can’t watch things in 4K because the DRM has a hardware component these days.

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    Had the same thought a year ago. The options which we have looked so ugly though i somehow ended up with a HTPC with Windows of all things… but i wish there would be a real simple Linux WM similiar to Apples TVos… Don’t like the Plasma Bigscreen either… Maybe its a great project to get into Wayland…