• takeda@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    I was musk and Tesla fanboy, but I personally snapped in mid 2022 when he disabled Starlink when Ukraine was doing offensive, causing it to fail.

    Looking back now, there were plenty of signs earlier that he was an asshole. The incident in Thailand, his behavior during covid, his behavior when answering question about water when opening factory in Germany.

    And reading more about him, everyone who was working with him said he was an asshole too.

    I guess people have different thresholds that make them wake up. I think though that anyone who is still supporting him after the Nazi salute is beyond hope.

    BTW after I woke up from fanboyism, I realized that he pays boots to promote him on social media (Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, pretty much everything). I saw for example bots on Facebook presenting even his biggest failures (for example Hyperloop in Las Vegas) as some kind of successes.

    I noticed on Reddit that for example of you say anything critical of him on subreddit like Tesla motors, you get a permanent shadowban. This is how they maintain the echo chamber.

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      3 days ago

      I remember saying specifically that EV’s would only really take off when someone makes them sporty and cool. Around a year later I hear about Tesla’s little sports car and was super interested. Then the news hit about how Elmo treated the founders of the company. He is just a banker and in the present world, bankers are a leading cause of our troubles. They do not fill the role they are intended to fill in society, that of enabling business. They extract wealth between themselves in ways that cost the average person without any of us in the loop of their schemes. Things like home prices and impossible to penetrate distribution monopolies are the result.

      We should freeze all rent and make laws that cause anyone unable to maintain a property to a standard to forfeit that property to the tenants. That would expel the banking industry from the housing market without causing total collapse because inflation will eventually make their presence and all investment property schemes untenable.

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        3 days ago

        I appreciate the thought but

        laws that cause anyone unable to maintain a property to a standard to forfeit that property to the tenants

        if the tenants could afford to maintain a building they probably would have bought condos

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      2 days ago

      I remember it was definitely known before 2018 if you were in the right circles, but yeah like you said different thresholds. He was still far more popular than not at that point, but the evidence did exist.

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        2 days ago

        Yeah, absolutely, I’m now wondering how I was so stupid and didn’t notice this earlier.