Age verification for all.
    • pineapple@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      17 hours ago

      Seams cool, but why not matrix since matrix has different instances you can chose from.

    • Raz@lemmy.ml
      1·
      16 hours ago

      Does this still require you to ‘call’ people to be in a voice channel? Or is it now similar to discord in that you join a channel and can hear anyone in it?

  • mcv@lemmy.zip
    8·
    1 day ago

    I’m not against age restrictions, but letting every site brew their own method is a really bad idea. I’m not going to upload my legal ID to every random site; that’s a recipe for identity theft, and it’s a really bad idea to teach people that that’s normal or acceptable.

    And age guessing through facial recognition is incredibly unreliable. My 16 year old son has already been accepted as 18+ somewhere. I had a full moustache at 14. Others are blessed with a babyface well into their 30s.

    The only right way to do this, is if governments provide their citizens with an eID that any site can ask “is this person 18+?” and get an accurate answer without any other identifiable info. And if you don’t want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.

    But instead everybody’s got to cobble together their own improvised system that we just have to trust blindly is not going to sell our data.

    • Ferk@lemmy.ml
      1·
      44 minutes ago

      if you don’t want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.

      I feel a proxy would not really make much of a difference. If the government keeps a mapping of which eID corresponds to each real person from their end (which they would do if they want to know what sites you visit) then they can simply request the services (and/or intermediaries) to provide logs of the eIDs. If the government really wants to know what sites you visit they can mandate for services to keep those logs and/or to keep record of the eID corresponding to each user. They can say that the service does not know who you are… but the government can know it, if they want.

      The government needs to want to protect your privacy. If the government really wants to know what sites you visit, there’s no reason why they would want to provide you with a eID that is truly anonymous at all levels and that isn’t really linked to you, not even in state-owned databases.

    • freedickpics@lemmy.ml
      1·
      2 hours ago

      and it’s a really bad idea to teach people that that’s normal or acceptable.

      This is a point so few people mention. Normalising having to give up personal information online is such a dangerous thing to do and companies/governments that enforce this shit are setting people up to be scammed

    • M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de
      3·
      18 hours ago

      And if you don’t want the government to know what sites you visit, have sites route the request through a proxy.

      Actually, no on the fly communication with the issuer is required for selective disclose. You just need a signed document with individually salted hashes of different properties and you can create a zero knowledge proof non-interactively. Zero knowledge meaning that truely nothing but the disclosed property (age > 18, County == DE, or whatever) is communicated to anyone.

      Theres a lot of other cool stuff that can be done with zero knowledge digital identity wallets. You could for example hash your pubkey together with the service providers pk and disclose that as a per service ID, but not reveal your pk. This allows linkability within one service (as a login method for example) while preventing cross service linkability.

  • SpaceCrystal@lemmy.ml
    26·
    2 days ago

    Yeah, you go ahead & do that, & watch how many people will jump ship to other alternatives while you lose a lot of money & subscriptions, especially when you’ve been hacked before.

    People have found other alternatives to TikTok, & they’ll do the same with Discord.

  • Prove_your_argument@piefed.socialEnglish
    69·
    2 days ago

    I’m never doing this. I’ll pay someone else to verify my account before I upload my dox with these assholes.

    I’m fine switching to an alternative, but I have seen no gaming companies linking anything else for their official “forums”

  • RotatingParts@lemmy.mlEnglish
    54·
    2 days ago

    I hope for once people would get together and drop Discord so that Discord would have to reverse this policy. So often, we the customers really have the power if we get together and act together. All these social networks are nothing without the contributions of the customers.

    • harsh3466@lemmy.ml
      171·
      2 days ago

      without the contributions of the customers

      Without the contributions of the product.

      As the adage goes, if you’re not paying for it (and often even when you are), you’re not the customer.

      • Untold1707@lemmy.zip
        8·
        2 days ago

        Usability is good in my opinion. They’ve spent a lot of time on the UI over the past couple years. The mobile Element X apps are excellent now IMO. But the two things that prevent matrix/Element from being a good discord replacement are:

        1. No Mumble-like voice chat. They have Zoom-like conference calling now, but no voice channels.
        2. Search is either non-existent (mobile clients) or is awful. It’s somehow worse than Discord’s search! I know it’s because the search needs to work on-device because of E2EE, but unfortunately it’s still a minus point vs Discord.
          • ℍ𝕖𝕝𝕚0𝕤@social.ggbox.fr
            3·
            1 day ago

            Seconding this, just use mumble. It’s self-hosted free and open source software, easy on resources, provides very low latency, and it’s very stable and reliable.

            The client might look a little dated but I still love it. I don’t care for stupid electron apps, which every modern application seems to be.

  • mechanicalAnt@piefed.zipEnglish
    54·
    2 days ago

    I don’t trust discord with what little I formation I’ve gave them so far. Definitely not giving them my ID or a scan of my face.

    • ttyybb@lemmy.world
      13·
      2 days ago

      But they pinky promise the face scan is not facial recognition and that it’s immediately deleted and never leaves your device.