Surveillance strategies in the UK and Israel often go global

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    2 days ago

    Fuck this shit. The UK is not longer a free country. And fuck Israel even more for their damned work over the decades to make this possible.

  • youmaynotknow@lemmy.zip
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    What I see here is that the UK is a hostile entity towards humanity. So, fuck the UK government and all their parties. Since we’re here, fuck the French government as well, just in case.

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        4 days ago

        What is the fundamental difference. Evil men and arrogant idiots might as well be the same thing.

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          focusing on the ‘they are idiots’ fallacy completely misdirects blame and disencourages deeper critical thought. they have a plan and we need one too.

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            the real misdirection is focusing on individuals and their blame. The real question is why does UK political system produces these people rule and how do they keep ruling.

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              Both parties were captured by the aristocracy/super rich, call them what you will, and they support a total surveillance of a population they obviously fear and want tools to persecute as they see fit. Starmer is a perfect example of this, he’s done more damage arguably than the tories did in over a decade. Their betrayal of the country will throw the elections to the far right too, that is the only protest vote against the status quo, and they will affix themselves in power and implement even worse privacy.

              A popular reform party would fix the problems but the aristocracy is too greedy and arrogant for that, thinking they can control a far right party or otherwise shut them out electorally indefinitely and continue to sell out the public to the rich, even as discontent is increasing and the plutocratic rot is visible on the surface and spread throughout the whole.

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              sure, focusing on how dumb they are isn’t very condusive to discussing the intricacies of capitalism.

              seriously though, they do have a plan. we need to figure out ours.

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      They don’t care how it affects normal people’s lives or what we sacrifice to pay for their incompetent leadership.

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      “Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice.”

      or something like that…

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    No way this lasts or holds up to basic scrutiny. End to end encryption is a de-facto standard for so fucking much technology.

    Like fucking HTTPS.

    • Avatar of Vengeance@lemmy.mlOP
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      Well if they commit to this, it will never affect “e2ee” options that collaborate with feds e.g. whatsapp, imessage. If you can kill Refaat Alareer with it rest assured you will be able to keep it in your phone anytime

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        Yes, the trick is to outlaw it entirely then enforce the law selectively against those whom you find politically awkward.

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      TLS is not typically considered end-to-end encryption. It’s transport encryption.

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    So google, amazon and Microsoft are hostile actors.every cloud provider is an enemy of uk government. They have gardeners (at best) or lawyers ( most probably), which did their own research.before writing these abominations. At the same time, they want to give all medical datas in the NHS to palantir. This is the apoteosis of incompetence.

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      So google, amazon and Microsoft are hostile actors

      Obviously not. They’re happy to give MI5 a backdoor into all their systems.

      This is the apoteosis of incompetence.

      The age old question - malicious or stupid.

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      I remember in the 1990s when you went to download Netscape you could only use the 40-bit encryption if you were in Europe, not the 128-bit encryption people in the USA could use.

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    Gee why does the capitalist oligopoly fear communication they can’t monitor it’s not like they are doing anything wrong and have anything to fear from little old us

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          At this point it feels like they’re being paid to make people vote for Reform who will then make great use of all the surveillance infrastructure that Labour and Tories have put in place

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      Shit-flinging desperation at the realization that they have failed to contain dissent via internet-based coordination. Elbit and the UK’s protection of property was defeated by persistent disruption thanks to the work by Palestine Action. Unlike previous forms of communication, the empire has had tremendous difficulty wrestling control away because the materiality of the internet is so dispersed, accessible, and impossible to restrict without dire economic and military consequences.

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    There’s a common saying in Germany that applies. Die spinnen, die Britten Basically translates to: “Those Brits are crazy”, but the literal translation would be: “The Brits are spinning” (yarn).

    Obelix knows best.

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      The spiders,
      the Brits!
      /s

      What does it say in the original French version?