That is indeed a good argument for voting, but voting third party

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And the answer to that question is “there’s no such thing as a source with no bias”

Damn, I didn’t realize I - a non-eligible voter not living in a swing state - was that powerful. That makes it even more egregious that the Democrats didn’t try to win my vote. I personally chose who would win and they wouldn’t even not do genocide to convince me

ie: the lesser evil position is just Accelerationism

Yeah, but then they couldn’t just mindlessly regurgitate them every time they’re proven wrong.

Yeah man, the Neo-liberal turn? The war on terror? The GFC? All irrelevant, “people not voting” is the reason we have a goddam Cheeto in the white house.

No, an ad hominem is when you attack someones character as a way to dismiss your arguments: like when you tried to dismiss mine by bleating “projection”.

I’m not calling you an insufferable reddit shitheal, who spurts copy pasted logical fallacies from Wikipedia because they think they’re magic spells, to discredit your argument. I’m calling you that because that’s what you are.

Can we please ban this genocide denier?

Gaza was leveled while Biden was in office you genocide denying scum

Oh my God, is there anything more obnoxious that reddit debate lords that have the Wikipedia list of logical fallacies open in another tab, but never bother to actually learn what they mean, so they just copy paste them like they’re magical debate incantations that win arguments.

And no, “projection” is not a logical fallacy, you absolute dumb ass. Accusing people of it to dismiss their argument is though, you fucking idiot. Go back to Reddit, for fucks sake.

Mate, the person literally said “Either the sources are biased or not”

are you telling me that

Fun fact: every single time someone writes this, whatever follows is guaranteed to be an outrageous strawman that in no way it’s what the other person was saying.

But I’m confident the Harris administration wouldn’t have taking the swan-dive that Trump’s did.

You genocide denying scum. The genocide was just as bad under Biden, who Harris promised to emulate. Your lie that there was some kind of “swandive” is genocide denying bullshit

All the people advocating for “less evil” always end up destroying their own argument by immediately descending into apologism and denial to defend that evil. I’m not going to “vote for the lesser evil” if doing so turns me into a genocide denying ghoul, which it certainly has for everyone I’ve seen advocating it.

orange traitor

Yeah, that’s the problem with Trump: he’s not loyal enough to the nation that you yourself have admitted has a bipartisan commitment to genocide. This is like condemning Himmler for being a traitor to Nazi Germany. Seriously, you just can’t stop yourself from giving up the game: you don’t actually think the Democrats are “lesser evil”, you don’t think they’re evil at all.

You’re projecting. Y’all need to get that under control.

Alright, fuck off. If you’re going to just start sprouting random pre-loaded accusations like this that don’t even apply to the context at hand, I’m just going to tell you to fuck off back to reddit and not read the rest of your post.

The Democrats handed the election to him on a silver platter.

Oh, I thought leftists on Lemmy handed him the election. And hear you are now, doing the thing that BlueMAGA keeps telling me made Trump win.

Also incorrect

100% correct. You’re up and down this thread making the false claim that Democrats were less supportive of the Palestinian genocide.

but was and remain opposed to genocide regardless of who’s in power.

Except for the part where you will engage in genocide minimisation to defend the Democrats.

At that point, the lesser evil position is which ever will destroy the USs ability to do genocide the fastest

It’s extremely telling that even you “lesser evil” BlueMAGA types can’t being yourselves to actually be honest about what you supported: you have to make up this bullshit white washed version of the Democrats that wasn’t entirely all in on genocide. Clearly even you know the lesser evil position as it actually exists is indefensible.

Despite that, there sure are a lot of folks here who were eager to hand him the keys of the country, and continue to to defend their choice.

Mate, everyone told you people that Democrats would lose if they didn’t change tact, but you refused. You were the ones who eagerly handed Trump the keys to the country!

our only options were more vs less.

No, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it. It took Trump winning for you to actually admit the extent of the genocide.