Or Finland

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It’s true but weak at the same time:

• Have you read bible/quran and the other books in christianity/islam? No? Then you can’t criticize it!
• Have you read at least some books about astrology?
• Have you read books about flat Earth?
• Have you read Mein Kampf?
• … and so on

It’s true that if you want to have a deep down discussion about Marxism, you need to read the book, there’s no way around it. But at the same time it’s unrealistic to expect that most people will read at least some books for every ideology to form an opinion

I think the meme is attempting to disparage the “ungratefulness” of present day liberals in these FSU countries

Yes, well this is basically Russian diplomacy propaganda 101 - “I did this and that for you and now you’re ungrateful”. Similar stuff abusing husband says to abused wife. Basically if russians helped you in any way in history, you’re supposed to be their vasal until the end of the universe, there’s no expiring date on that. It’s abusive and disgusting

Exactly, I pointed it out because soviets often try to steal all the achievements of the country - same as in this meme, a horde of russians came and built for poor, dumb baltic people all the stuff. In reality, it’s much more complex and those constructions were built by local workers, local architects, etc. With russian money I guess but that begs the question - who should get credit for those buildings then?

Who built those hospitals, schools, libraries? Russians or the people of baltic countries?

This is fake, no one can code like that

to perpetuate backwards gender roles

I never even suggested that. Where did you get that from? All I’m saying is, people in power aren’t your friends.

Although is it a good thing that me and my wife work like crazy to keep our family going? Is this really what life is about? I’d love to be stay at home dad, yet I can’t

I literally said it’s a positive thing, just that motivation of people in power is cynical. Also I didn’t mention communism, I meant it in general regardless of regime

Maybe a bad choice of words on my part, maybe I should write “not because it’s right, but because it doubles the workforce”

Although whether “double the workforce” is good or bad, I’d keep that for a discussion, see my other comment for more info: https://lemmy.world/comment/16185467

Sorry for late response and I see the comment is now deleted by a mod but whatever (well we’re on .ml after all).

What I was trying to point out, was the “cynical” part of it. That people in power often don’t do it because they want to empower women or help people, more often than not it’s just that it brings more people into their “meat grinder” - regardless of the regime. In case of capitalism it’s obvious but it doesn’t need to be money necessarily; in the case of Stalin - pardon me if I don’t believe that he did it for “supporting women rights and making the world a better place ✌️”, he did it for the raw economic power to compete with US during cold war and so his own country wouldn’t collapse because of his stupid actions.

Whether doubling the workforce is a good thing - that I’d keep up for a debate. I deliberately didn’t want to say anything in that area, I’m just saying that the motivation of people in power is cynical, not saying if result is good or bad.

But if you’d want my personal stance - I do believe that in order to achieve welfare/prosperity, not all the people have to work. And I do believe that there are more important things in life than working. I’d love to be a stay at home dad, but I can’t. Even though my country sort of supports it, my pay would cut dramatically and we as a family wouldn’t be able to survive.

But honestly thank you for asking. It’s very refreshing to meet a person who asks and tries to understand the motivation of the commenter rather than jumping right to the conclusion (as almost every other response here)

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