Simulations of Canadian UBI programs could lead to a 5-year cumulative increase of $46 billion in government revenue and $178 billion in GDP without initial debt funding, or as much as $109 billion in government revenue and $419 billion in GDP if the program is initially 50% funded by government debt (this debt funding would be reduced over time)

https://www.cancea.ca/index.php/2021/02/05/potential-economic-impacts-and-reach-of-basic-income-programs/

As a health economist, you become aware very quickly that we use the healthcare system to treat the consequences of poverty, and we do it in an inefficient and expensive way,” she says. “We wait until people live horrible lives for many years, get sick as a consequence, and then we go in all guns blazing to make things better.”

After several years of painstaking work, she was finally able to publish the results, many of which were eye-opening. In particular, Forget was struck by the improvements in health outcomes over the four years. There was an 8.5% decline in hospitalisations – primarily because there were fewer alcohol-related accidents and hospitalisations due to mental health issues – and a reduction in visits to family physicians.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200624-canadas-forgotten-universal-basic-income-experiment

Yes. These programs literally produce more money than they consume. The effects of poverty are more expensive than fighting poverty.

If for some reason you feel the need to fire thousands of people all at once when the company is actively expanding and making a profit, then you hired too many people.

Maybe they shouldn’t over-hire by tens of thousands for the sake of “growth”? “They hired more than they fired” isn’t a good thing when they fire thousands of people. it just means the company is willfully and apathetically churning through the labor force while making money hand-over-fist and increasing C-suite compensation.

The bonus was also basically all stocks, so if the company does well, he gets more money. If it fails he gets less.

… so? Why is this relevant? A bonus is a bonus.

Target acquired.

Yeah, things like “responsible budget” are always just a lie.

It’s not worth acknowledging the “good points” when they only seem to use them as a smoke screen and a distraction.

If you want to embrace the ideals that they willfully abandon at every opportunity, maybe just find a new name for that set of ideals.