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  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.workstoScience Memes@mander.xyzI dunno
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    12 hours ago

    They didn’t say it’s not defined, they said it’s not a valid name. Most languages don’t allow function names to start with a number, so 5 literally cannot be a function if that’s the case.

    But that’s assuming this isn’t some really obscure language.


  • No, I’m not being optimistic. I’m being observant.

    You can assume the worst behaviour of people like Trump without falling into defeatism. He doesn’t have superpowers. He lives in the same reality you and I do.

    We know for a fact that major economic slowdowns such as the bond markets getting “yippy” (his word, remember?) will cause him to back off. There are things he’s not willing to break and he’s proven that.

    And we know that despite all his rhetoric about ignoring courts, he never actually seems to follow through. The National Guard got redpployed to other cities. Abrego Garcia got brought back to the US. The shutdown ended before he could actually be tested on his threat to not hand out food stamps. He never actually defies the courts, when push comes to shove. Instead he relies on running ahead of them.

    That’s still bad. It’s why new cities are being picked as targets for crackdowns, and they’re now trying to deport Abrego to a different country. No one is defending him here, or implying that he’s in any way respectful or subservient to the rule of law.

    But he exists in reality. He’s not a demon or a god or a phantasm from another dimension. He operates within the rules of the same reality we inhabit. There are limits on what he can do, and if you’re paying attention you can start to piece together what those limits are.

    That’s not optimism, that’s just knowing your enemy.


  • We already know what the other hypothetical loopholes are. None of them would offer him as much freedom to implement tariffs as the one he’s currently trying to use. That’s why he’s using it in the first place.

    As for ignoring the courts, I think it’s really important to understand that:

    1. Trump hasn’t actually followed through on that threat any of the times he’s made it so far… They’ve dragged their heels on a lot of things, but they’ve never actually managed to fully defy a court order yet. That’s why Abrego Garcia isn’t in El Salvador. If the Trump admin were actually confident they had the ability to flat out ignore the courts, that guy would still be rotting in Bukele’s black site.

    2. This is very, very different from ordering ICE to bully immigrants. The Trump admin continuing to enforce a tariff that the courts had struck down would immediately crash the US bond market. Remember when bonds got a little “yippy” and Trump chickened the fuck out? This would be a thousand times worse. Because any tariffs collected by the admin would, eventually, have to be paid back once the rule of law prevails. Yes, I can already see you gearing up to say that the rule of law will never prevail, there won’t a 2028 election, etc, etc. I know all that, but international bond markets don’t. They are hidebound stuffy old institutions fully of neoliberals who expect norms and rule of law to prevail. Which means that the US putting itself in a situation where it will be forced to repay potentially trillions of dollars in illegally collected taxes (depending on how long the tariffs are illegally enforced for) will look an awful like a serious likelihood of a country going bankrupt or defaulting on its debts. That’s the sort of thing that sends bond markets spiralling. Liz Truss collapsed the UK bond market and her own prime ministership by doing far, far less.


  • I don’t think there’s going to be any movement on this until the two tariff related cases clear the US supreme court.

    The F-35 deal is a major bargaining chip in our negotiations with the US, and those negotiations aren’t going to go anywhere until we know what we’re negotiating against. If the supreme court strikes down Trump’s ability to tariff under the IEEPA, that absolutely destroys his leverage. We know that his own party have already voted against his tariff agenda multiple times, so the only way he can do this is by going around Congress. If he loses that option, he’s suddenly playing with a completely empty hand, while we still hold all the same cards we did from the start.

    I suspect that’s why this “Review” is taking so long. The government is going to want to have it say whatever backs up their position with the US, and right now they don’t yet know what that position will ultimately be. What we do know is that Saab’s eagerness to make a deal gives us more leverage because we can very credibly threaten Lockheed (who basically own the US government) with walking away. After all, 10,000 jobs and total ownership of the production pipeline is pretty tempting.



  • No, we can’t start throwing out burden of proof when it suits us.

    I’ve argued elsewhere in this thread that the solution is to obligate parents to provide vaccinations, just like they’re obligated to provide food, water, clothing, shelter, etc. This is the basic legal duty of care that all parents have towards their children, and it should extend to vaccines. This is both a logical application of existing law - rather than requiring new law - and incredibly simple to prove in court. If parents are obligated to vaccinate their kids, all a cop or social worker has to do is ask for the proof of vaccination. There’s no balance of proof to consider, and no knotty problems of untangling exactly how someone else’s kid got sick.





  • I’m personally of the opinion that refusing to vaccinate your kids should not be a choice parents get to make. Just like how you can’t choose to starve your children, no matter how deeply and truly you believe that we can draw all our necessary sustenance from the air.

    In Canada we have a legal concept called the “Duty of persons to provide necessaries.”

    Here’s the relevant legal code:

    215 (1) Every one is under a legal duty (a) as a parent, foster parent, guardian or head of a family, to provide necessaries of life for a child under the age of sixteen years;

    https://www.criminalnotebook.ca/index.php/Failing_to_Provide_the_Necessaries_of_Life_(Offence)

    I firmly believe that vaccinations should be deemed one of the “necessaries of life” under this article of the criminal code. Like food, water, clothing, shelter, etc. You shouldn’t have a choice in this matter. We shouldn’t even be talking about whether or not that choice harms someone else’s kid, because that’s actually beside the point. At a basic level, we as a society have already agreed that children’s right to be properly sheltered and cared for outweighs their parents rights to decide how they live. The idea that there should be an exception for vaccines - something that can mean the difference between life and death - is absolutely ridiculous.




  • You’re entirely misunderstanding what I’m saying. The F-35 is an air-to-air plane. In the same way the Gripen, The Eurofighter Typhoon, the F-16 and the F/A-18 are. They are all capable of filling both ground attack and air-to-air roles. And the F-35 fills an air-to-air role incredibly well - better than almost any other plane on Earth - because it has an almost unbeatable advantage over any other air-to-air platform; stealth.

    Think of modern air-to-air combat as a sniper duel in the sky. The goal is to remain unobserved by your target while you line up a shot on them. By the time they detect the incoming missile, it’s already too late. And even if they defeat that missile with countermeasures, you haven’t given away your own position and can quickly relocate and fire again while remaining undetected. Eventually, you’ll get the kill. The person who fires first, wins.





  • You’ve hit the nail on the head here.

    I don’t know what the right answer is on this one. On balance, I lean towards getting the Gripen as a stopgap and prioritizing access to those European sixth gen projects. Select the one that looks the best suited for our needs and go in hard on collaborating on it.

    This is part of why I think the Gripen makes sense; we can build it here, which opens up the possibility of being able to build a sixth gen later, instead of having to wait in line for our order to ship. The F-35 gives us better capabilities now, but doesn’t solve the underlying problems down the road.

    There is, I think, a version of events where we sign a deal with Saab to build Gripens in Canada to export to buyers like Ukraine, and then go ahead and take the F-35 order anyway. Most likely, we use this to extract concessions in other areas from the Americans, pointing at our new domestic fighter plane industry as a very credible threat to walk away from the F-35 deal. Then, if we’re smart about this, we continue to build up our ability to domestically produce fighter craft, with an eye on that sixth gen project. This would make a lot of sense in the context of Carney’s stated goal of making Canada a defence supplier to the EU, while still leaving us with an interim platform that can handle anything the Russians throw at us.