Dessalines
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Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
4·5 hours agoI’m fully convinced its just like apple’s support: they make some vagueish unprovable claims about privacy, and have a functional and shiny app. That’s enough for people to overlook all the privacy issues, and build a cult-like fanbase.
Like if anyone walked into a privacy conference and said, “Hey everyone, I’m going to make a private messaging service. I need everyone’s phone number!”, they’d get laughed out of the room. But because their app looks nice, then people need to develop the cult-like following whenever it gets attacked, because its touching on an unresolved cognitive dissonance of this being a terrible idea.
“You won’t need to do any work and still get money”.
Redditors mis-defining socialism as capitalism again.
Unlike workers, Capitalists make their living, not by clocking in and being paid a certain fixed wage per hour, but through absentee ownership. Their wealth is earned while sleeping, playing golf, or visiting the mailbox to collect pieces of this wage theft, often in the form of stock dividends. A worker’s wealth is dependent on the number of hours they can work; a Capitalist’s wealth is based on how much absentee property they can accumulate, and as such can multiply infinitely. Some Capitalists earn an average worker’s yearly salary in a single night’s sleep.
For example, a Copper mine owner neither physically mines the copper, and (living thousands of miles away) likely delegates day-to-day operations to a hired manager. Yet, because they have a piece of paper that says they own it, they get a large cut of everything that was mined: the ultimate free lunch.
A 1983 report by England national income and expenditures found that on average, 26 minutes of every hour worked (or 43% of labor value added) by English workers across a wide range of industries went to various exploiting or unproductive groups, with workers receiving only 57% of their pre-tax productive output as wages<sup>1</sup>. In other words, at least 40% of the work you do every day is stolen by Capitalists.
Socialism fundamentally works by creating a system that taxes those who have more than others and goes to those who have less than others.
Prager-U level definition that has nothing to do with socialism.
Here’s a concise definition:
Socialism : A range of social and economic systems characterized by social ownership of the means of production. It can also mean the transitional stage between capitalism and communism, sometimes referred to as the dictatorship of the proletariat.

For anyone interested, here’ a short excerpt on this point from a socialism crash course:
Unlike workers, Capitalists make their living, not by clocking in and being paid a certain fixed wage per hour, but through absentee ownership. Their wealth is earned while sleeping, playing golf, or visiting the mailbox to collect pieces of this wage theft, often in the form of stock dividends. A worker’s wealth is dependent on the number of hours they can work; a Capitalist’s wealth is based on how much absentee property they can accumulate, and as such can multiply infinitely. Some Capitalists earn an average worker’s yearly salary in a single night’s sleep.
For example, a Copper mine owner neither physically mines the copper, and (living thousands of miles away) likely delegates day-to-day operations to a hired manager. Yet, because they have a piece of paper that says they own it, they get a large cut of everything that was mined: the ultimate free lunch.
A 1983 report by England national income and expenditures found that on average, 26 minutes of every hour worked (or 43% of labor value added) by English workers across a wide range of industries went to various exploiting or unproductive groups, with workers receiving only 57% of their pre-tax productive output as wages<sup>1</sup>. In other words, at least 40% of the work you do every day is stolen by Capitalists.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
11·8 hours agoThe above poster is wrong. You can absolutely trust lemmy, because its open source and self hostable. You can build the project from source (like a cooking recipe), and run it yourself.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
41·1 day agoI can’t really trust anyone’s security philosophy when they market their service as “secure”, but then have it built on required phone numbers (linkable to your real identity), and a single centralized US-based server subject to national security letters.
Anyone who came up with this idea of security should be laughed out of the room.
I’m convinced signal’s entire support is similar to apple’s : they make vague untestable claims about security, whilst having a shiny and functional app.
There are so many self-hostable alternatives that have signal beat on both those, that make any reason for using it moot.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
72·1 day agoSignal has your phone number and everyone else’s who signed up. That is more than just client information, and it’s possible to build entire social networking graphs with it alone.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
52·1 day agoyou can never validate what code a server is running
Most halfway-decent messaging services (unlike signal) are self-hostable. So yes with actual open source software, that’s very possible.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
4·1 day agowe can guarantee is that it can’t be tied back to your message history,
Prove it. And not from some just trust me bro statement from signal.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
62·1 day agoGive me ssh access to their server so I can verify that works like it should.
Can’t? Then it’s just trust me bro
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
62·1 day agoNot effectively, since it’s centralized in the US and you have no idea what code the server is running.
Signal does claim to have their server code open, but they went a whole year one time without updating it, until they received some backlash for it.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
81·1 day agoWhich is true of open source unless you read the code and can verify nothing nefarious exists
Not at all. Not everyone needs to audit open source, only a few interested experts do. Most importantly, auditing is possible because its out in the open.
The just trust me model of signal means its impossible to audit, unless they give us their centralized database and server code.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
66·1 day agoIt’s really the opposite, considering its a centralized server hosted in the USA. Signal’s “Trust me bro” is not an adequate security model.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
19·1 day agoThere are plenty of chat services that aren’t centralized and hosted in the USA.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Signal Founder Moxie Marlinspike: Telegram is not private. There is nothing private about it. They've done a really amazing job of convincing the world that this is an encrypted messaging app
95·1 day agoThere’s no such social graph to speak of. Signal does not know who is speaking to whom.
You have no source for that other than Signal’s “just trust us” claims.
Means we can’t effectively “live a pleasurable life / gather roses while we can in this life”, because the next lives downstream will keep experiencing suffering just like we do, and it multiplies to infinity, unless we do something in this life to escape suffering.
Even if you don’t believe in rebirth, it’s hard to deny that it does give a good impetus and sense of urgency that gets us to look beyond our own existence.
You just gotta act like one and you should be good. Sleep a lot and live for food and you’re all set.
Dessalines@lemmy.mlto
Open Source@lemmy.ml•LibreOffice Leave X/Twitter in favor of Mastodon
6·4 days agoThreads.
Also instagram should be shown there too as its owned by facebook.






I wish more troops would commit treason and go against the US settler colonial project. There have been cases.