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  • The second link says it affects estrogen levels though, which is why I’m confused.

    Is this new research?

    Edit: the corroborating link the article provides doesn’t really show much about how the study was conducted

    Editedit: found what they were citing, but it’s from the 90s, so it’s very much not new, and it doesn’t actually support what the article is claiming.

    The studies described in the previous sections strongly support the hypothesis that congeners present in alcoholic beverages can produce measurable estrogenic effects, even at moderate drinking levels. Specifically, those studies found the following:

    • Alcoholic beverage congeners exerted estrogenic effects both in an experimental animal model and in post-menopausal women.

    • The estrogenic effects of alcoholic beverage congeners were detectable using a variety of estrogenic markers, including the pituitary hormones LH (in OVEX rats and postmenopausal women), FSH, and prolactin (in postmenopausal women); uterus weight (in OVEX rats); and the estrogen-responsive liver proteins HDL cholesterol and SHBG (in postmenopausal women).

    • In both the experimental animals and the postmenopausal women, the changes in the levels of all estrogenic markers were consistent with the presence of biologically active phytoestrogens in the congeners.

    • Red wine congeners and bourbon congeners produced similar estrogenic effects in experimental animals and in postmenopausal women.








  • Oh, I understand. I was trying to snarkily imply that the smug, autofellating, condescending attitude you mentioned was unfortunately endemic, to the point where it’s starting to feel like some people are secretly jorking it while telling newbs they suck. I think it’s a huge reason why people feel like FOSS isn’t for them.