Dude, you’re not that special. People want me dead in the name of their religion, too. But I can still have a rational conversation about the topic. You’re not even attempting to engage with the actual question that is asked and it’s not clear why, but I think it’s clear that you’re working on your own personal issues and not really available for discussion on the topic. Maybe consider keeping your coping private, it’s harmful to others.

There is a personal element to this, somehow. The developer’s relationship with Linux took a weird turn at one point and there’s been a will-they-won’t-they tension ever since.

I’m not sure you’ve understood the question, because you have (probably unintentionally) avoided answering it. Forgive me if I now over-specify.

You’ve presented some circumstantial evidence against religion; “religion was involved in these bad things.” I am asking for the mechanism by which religion causes these bad things to happen. What is it that religion or religious practice actually does that you believe leads to these outcomes?

You weren’t talking about “religions that want you dead,” you were speaking very generally about the entire concept of religion. Are you trying to hint that you have a personal history that makes you biased and I’m not going to get objective reasoning out of you?

It wasn’t a classification, it was a declaration. It was what side you were on in the Cold War.

So? You are reading things into the data and effectively turning it into a strawman. It isn’t presenting an argument, it is presenting data. You are being oversensitive and inferring an argument, and then criticizing that argument, but it doesn’t even exist.

reproduction taboos and mores? gay people can’t produce children for the family?

It’s confusing what you mean, because while “is first world” has come to mean “is a developed nation” for some reason, “used to be a first world” ambiguously summons the prior definition of the word, “an ally of the United States in the cold war.” Ideally this problematic phrase should be avoided.

Well, between the thighs.

What is the mechanism that you believe is at work? “Religion” doesn’t really explain anything and comes across as possibly bigoted.

They’re Christian like Trump is Christian. It’s not religion driving this.

Yeah, why didn’t I provision multiple backbones to my NOC? So shortsighted!

There was a “we” that produced the first public licenses – amateur and enthusiast software developers, who previously were simply publishing things to the “public domain”. And “we” had clear goals in doing so, which we often wrote directly into our ad hoc self-written licenses. They weren’t handed down by God, there is a mortal history, and living people here were part of it.

I agree that the GPL should be viewed as a cultural artifact, not a legal one. It’s just the spirit of shareware, but without money involved.

In context of the many failures, I don’t think this establishes anything.

So, it all reduces to a prior problem. The sewers are a red herring.

The original intention of public licenses was never to prevent code from spreading in any circumstance. Rather, that’s the “innovation” of copy-left. We just wanted a way to share our code without putting the people who used it into legal hot water. We didn’t want to control or manipulate people, using our code to extort a particular behavior out of them. We just wanted to share our code. I think copy-left makes sense in certain situations but I don’t think it should be the default option of a person wanting to contribute to culture.

like the GPL successfully enforces

I’m not aware of the GPL being legally tested to where you can claim that; there are a lot of open questions, and it has failed to protect works from AI companies, for example.

You’re taking an incredibly slanted position. There is a whole world of vibrant, viable, meaningful FOSS outside copyleft licenses. Even when one philosophically and politically prefers copyleft licenses, sometimes there are cases where the humanitarian or practical argument favours permissive licensing. But there are many who simply don’t share your interpretation of the philosophy and politics.

Dogs are able to casually identify the individual who produced the most minute sample of shit, tell you their last three meals, what they are going to die from, and when; and dog society didn’t fall apart. We’ll manage.

If it’s not fun then why are you arguing? You have the option to disengage. Every space doesn’t have to be for you. If it’s not something reportable, just let people have their fun, even that guy with the thorns in his comments.

There have been 60hz interlaced displays, that displayed alternate fields and so did a complete refresh 30 times a second. Actually, I guess that’s what NTSC broadcast TV was. It looks like ass in every other application, though.