Ok going to try Thunderbird tomorrow and if it works then I’ll see if I can reverse engineer whatever it does into gnus

Has anyone got gmail or outlook working via SMTP in the past couple years? I was using the former with emacs gnus and then it started demanding additional auth that I couldn’t provide via a simple file, then in the past 6 months the latter stopped letting me log in.

My ~/.gnus file was like this -

setq user-mail-address "my.name@hotmail.co.uk"
      user-full-name "My Name")

(setq gnus-select-method
      '(nnimap "outlook"
           (nnimap-address "imap-mail.outlook.com")
           (nnimap-server-port 993)
           (nnimap-stream ssl)))

(setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp-mail.outlook.com"
      smtpmail-smtp-service 587
      gnus-ignored-newsgroups "^to\\.\\|^[0-9. ]+\\( \\|$\\)\\|^[\"]\"[#'()]")

~/.authinfo (encrypted with gpg) -

machine imap-mail.outlook.com login my.name@hotmail.co.uk password **** port 993
machine smtp-mail.outlook.com login my.name@hotmail.co.uk password **** port 587

I think I might need to start hosting my own email server because every authentication option on these services requires some extra step or fingerprinting that gnus can’t provide. Maybe I should give up and try Thunderbird to see if that would work.

:grimace:

Use whatever works for you!

One thing I like about knowing find (and grep for that matter) is that you know it will be installed everywhere. It makes working on remote servers so much easier, especially if you can’t install any new packages with your user permissions.