It is when you know they’re being paid less than minimum wage because they’re a server. Want to actually make a difference? Lobby for better labor laws. Otherwise, you’re just punching someone who’s already down and blaming them for it.
There is a “server wage” that is less than the minimum wage if you are not a server. Similar to the “youth wage” that is less than the minimum wage for an adult doing the same job.
I can’t make sense out of this at all. How can you be paid a server wage when you’re not a server? How is the minimum wage a minimum if it can get lower? Am I just being pedantic?
It’s not if you aren’t a server, I was making a direct comparison between the minimum wage for servers and the minimum wage for non-servers.
There are many exemptions from the federal minimum wage in Canada, the ones I raised are just 2 of them. Temporary foreign workers and agricultural workers are also exempt, for example.
You could always look it up if you want to know more, it’s public information.
In the US, if the server doesn’t meet minimum wage using tips the balance comes from the business to ensure the serve has been paid minimum wage. Actual minimum wage, not server minimum wage. All tipping does is subsidize a restaurants labor costs.
Not tipping will definitely lower the income of a server since a lot make over min wage off tips. Labor laws need to change for servers so they aren’t in an exploitable position and have to rely on tips to live and deal with power tripping customers who think servers are their slaves b/c “they’re paying their wage”
Do not make blanket statements like this about the United States. Every state has different laws. Quite a few states have laws on the books that legally require all employees regardless of work to be paid full minimum wage so anyone making tips is getting paid significantly better than all the other minimum wage workers around them
As an adult, I’ve also kicked tipping culture to the curb.
I’m sorry, you want 10% tip to pour me a coffee and put a piece of coffee cake on a plate?
As your boss that drives a high end luxury car to pay you more.
deleted by creator
Not doing something optional isn’t punishing someone
It is when you know they’re being paid less than minimum wage because they’re a server. Want to actually make a difference? Lobby for better labor laws. Otherwise, you’re just punching someone who’s already down and blaming them for it.
Less than minimum wage? That’s not a thing in Canada is it?
Fortunately not. But even in Canada, minimum wage is abysmal.
There is a “server wage” that is less than the minimum wage if you are not a server. Similar to the “youth wage” that is less than the minimum wage for an adult doing the same job.
Not in Ontario any more.
I can’t make sense out of this at all. How can you be paid a server wage when you’re not a server? How is the minimum wage a minimum if it can get lower? Am I just being pedantic?
It’s not if you aren’t a server, I was making a direct comparison between the minimum wage for servers and the minimum wage for non-servers.
There are many exemptions from the federal minimum wage in Canada, the ones I raised are just 2 of them. Temporary foreign workers and agricultural workers are also exempt, for example.
You could always look it up if you want to know more, it’s public information.
But it seems like server wages were abolished.
Oooh I was totally misreading it. Sorry. I get it now!
In the US, if the server doesn’t meet minimum wage using tips the balance comes from the business to ensure the serve has been paid minimum wage. Actual minimum wage, not server minimum wage. All tipping does is subsidize a restaurants labor costs.
Not tipping will definitely lower the income of a server since a lot make over min wage off tips. Labor laws need to change for servers so they aren’t in an exploitable position and have to rely on tips to live and deal with power tripping customers who think servers are their slaves b/c “they’re paying their wage”
Do not make blanket statements like this about the United States. Every state has different laws. Quite a few states have laws on the books that legally require all employees regardless of work to be paid full minimum wage so anyone making tips is getting paid significantly better than all the other minimum wage workers around them
Servers are the main opposition to this as they want to make even more via tips. This doesn’t change that tips are optional.
Well it will definitely make the employee think maybe we should find another job.