• Nemo's public admirer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    2 days ago

    If you are USAmerican, didn’t your govt actively kill/silence/sabotage the leftists?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

    You have no successful left because it gets actively killed by your govt. Your govt is even planning to send its military/national guard into the cities in your country where “liberals” are in power, right?

    And regarding doubts on the claim on Xinjiang pushed by your govt, it looks like them manufacturing consent against their enemies rather than caring about the issue, because they are actively supporting genocide in Gaza.
    With the history on the invasion of Iraq, why wouldn’t people doubt it?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

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      There are plenty of mainstream, public leftists. Some of them run for official positions. Many of them express their opinions online with full name and credentials.

      You’re trying to give the leftists an excuse for not succeeding, but it’s their fault, not their government’s.

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        18 hours ago

        Who are they? I have heard of centre-left folk like Bernie Sanders and AOC. Any Marxist leader?

        I think they seem as leftists only in the context of America

        I’m from India, we have a Fabian socialist influence(but we have a RW party in power here for over a decade now) and from the net your available main party options seem to be centre-left to Right.

        And you have no real economical left too, right? Bernie Sanders who was bit left of centre-left was restricted by his party, right?

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          You’re right, our political spectrum has been “stretched” so far to the right that even our left feels centrist to other developed nations.

          It makes a lot of American leftists angry. To them it’s unconscionable that so many people (including leadership) agrees with right-wing agenda.

          Angry leftists here often say hurtful things and it upsets me, I should probably apologize to the guy above

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        Liberals are not leftists, the US government has a long and extremely well documented history of sabotaging and directly attacking actual leftists domestically and internationally, every idea you have is verifiably wrong