• SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org
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    3 days ago

    Lol, while technically true there’s a big picture you’re missing… The start of his presidency did co-incide with some things like the child tax credit etc. that did drop the official measurement to a historic low of 5.2% in 2021, but was then quickly repealed by bipartisan support in Congress causing it to skyrocket to 12.4% in 2022.

    In the US the child poverty rate had been slowly, but steadily, declining since the peak of the great recession… Until the Biden presidency circa ~2022 at which point it skyrocketed by the end of his presidency reaching ~2012 levels.

    While technically true that “Biden came into office and reduce[d] child poverty [sic] by half as his first action.” It ignores that immediately afterwards he did “destroy the economy”. Don’t get me started on ‘removing due process, open up national parks, cutting departments with corruption, invading other countries’ because also yes!

    Not to say Trump is better (we can all agree fuck that guy and all his cronies), but Jim Crow Joe is/was also evil, you’ve just been tricked into thinking otherwise…

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      Thanks for replying, I just recalled this:

      https://www.npr.org/2022/01/27/1075299510/the-expanded-child-tax-credit-briefly-slashed-child-poverty-heres-what-else-it-d

      Now we can say he failed but I can’t say that specific act is evil. Palestine on the other hand … ☠️

      Like, I get your viewpoints and you guys think I’m trying to bury any negative viewpoints of the democratic party or that I’m brainwashed. Which is funny to me because I hate the establishment Dems. I just think posts saying both suck and attacking the Dems aren’t helpful because they currently have no power. The other party is causing a lot of damage and there seems to be no stopping them so kicking the feckless Dems when they’re down seems weird to me.

      I also think the democratic party needs to be ousted by progressive candidates that have a good vision for the future. I’m not gonna lie though I don’t see it happening. The establishment Dems aren’t gonna bow down. Also, I see so many protests happening and although AOC and Bernie have made the news I don’t think I see the Dem leadership taking advantage of this and putting up a solid front either, like wtf is going on? I’m not sure it’s the coverage but it really seems like they’re lost.

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        The difference is the viewpoint:

        attacking the Dems aren’t helpful because they currently have no power. The other party is causing a lot of damage and there seems to be no stopping them

        If you buy into the underlying premises of how a liberal democracy functions (liberal used here as a technical term, not as a perjorative) then the only ones who have the power to stop the other party is the Dems and they actively choose not to. They’re neither down, nor out they’re doing their job of controlled opposition exactly as they are supposed to.

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          I still don’t like saying how they’re both the same because I fundamentally don’t believe that to my core (ie if they had all three branches we wouldn’t be talking about all this current mayhem).

          However, I think I understand your point and I agree with it.

          So thanks again!

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            They aren’t the same, one’s a sword and one’s a shield. The shield can’t effectively stab, but the sword can’t either if it’s forced to parry instead.

            I engaged because it seemed like there was agreement, just miscommunication. Glad I was able to help cut through it :D. Appreciate you!