I don’t recommend that anyone spend money on this without knowing what they’re actually getting into. $40-45 is all you need to access everything that the game has to offer.
There’s a “freefly” event coming up sometime next month if you want to try it out for yourself and see if you like it or not.
If you do decide to try it out, keep an eye out on the Bug Avoidance Thread that we posted over here:
https://lemmy.world/post/27541360
The game can be very buggy, but knowing how to avoid the worst bugs can make a big difference. Even then, there are still bugs that will get you. It’s not for the faint of heart.
One thing to keep in mind about the “$40-$45 is all you need” statements that litter almost every Star Citizen thread is that the math doesn’t really work out.
As per CIG, you have around 2.5 million paying accounts (with many of them being alts). 2.5 M. * $45 gives us $112.5 M, so just 14% of their revenue.
It’s clear that they will put the overwhelming majority of their resources into something that gives them 86% of their revenues; milking whales, selling JPEGs and power creep cash items (with the vast majority of the older cash shop items being either outright non-functional or abandoned).
For me, I followed the development for about 1-2 years before buying into a starter package. Then, I didn’t spend anything else until I was confident that they would continue to deliver updates (about a year later).
I’ve continued to fund them here and there over the years when I feel like they’ve released some good content, but that’s because I’m comfortable supporting them.
No one actually needs to do that. With $45 you can just go out and do some FPS missions where, at the end, you’re rewarded with some of the higher end ships (Contested Zone gameplay).
Even easier is that you can just hijack an NPC/abandoned ship and, as long as you store it in your hangar at the end of each session, you can keep on using it for anything.
There’s really no need to actually pay for anything beyond the initial starter ship because almost everything else is earnable/hijackable in-game.
It really depends on how you define “scam”. It’s not a scam by how I would define it.
With the loosest definition possible, sure. I bought into a scam. I’m not a fan of all their marketing tactics.
But the game is playable enough for me and I really enjoy playing it. I did my research and I knew what I was paying into at the time. I’ve gotten my money’s worth already and I’m still enjoying it, which is a lot better than what I can say for some other games out there.
It’s a company that has taken in hundreds if millions of dollars for something that they know will never materialize into an actual game.
We had a really confident businessman come into my rural college town 6 years ago with a big development plan that was going to revolutionize the downtown. He graduated from the local college 20 years ago and was supposedly some hot shot businessman in Miami now. He brought in all these local investors, signed agreements to purchase the land once the city gave him approval and grants, “purchased” a house and some other properties that were going to go along. He took up several city council meetings wherre he brought in his big design plans, feasibility studies, and everything else. But everytime he had to show he had the funds to get approval for development,he hemmed and hawwed and asked for an extension.
It turns out, he had made a similar pitch to quite a few other small towns. The house he “purchased” he actually was just renting, and then sub-renting it out while he was “out of town on business”. He didn’t put any of his own money in, relying instead in local businesses and landowners who signed him onto their deeds or gave him right to first refusal on their deliapadated properties. His 'feasibility studies" all came from a firm no one could find any actual information about. Fortunately no one really lost anything beyond a lot of time and legal fees backing out if his bad faith contracts, but it’s established that the “developer” was really just a conman trying to grift the town. A scam.
Star Citizen is no different than any of the metaverse crypto scams from 4 years ago, it’s just a bit more polished and at a grander scale. If you think that $800 million to develop a half-backed game that doesn’t deliver on any of it’s fundamental promoses isn’t a scam, then i would love to pitch my riverfront development project to you when you have the time.
Thanks for typing that out. I really appreciate the example from your own experience. I’m glad your city didn’t get in too deep with that scammer.
There are a lot of different kinds of scams, not all of them are the best for comparing to something like game development, so maybe we can find something a bit more applicable (like No Man’s Sky).
No Man’s Sky made a lot of big promises leading up to it’s initial release.
Was No Man’s Sky a scam while it was under initial development?
Was No Man’s Sky a scam when it first released?
If yes, was it still a scam while Sean continued to improve the game with the first few updates?
Would you consider No Man’s Sky to be a scam in its current state today?
scam implies that you didn’t know what you were getting into, for almost a decade you could easily tell star citizen wouldn’t release soon, therefore it should be considered a scam at that point in time, the early investors were scammed, but not the current ones those that feel that way are either idiots or failed to do basic research.
The game can be very buggy, but knowing how to avoid the worst bugs can make a big difference. Even then, there are still bugs that will get you. It’s not for the faint of heart.
If they pivot hard enough, sounds like that could be the game, lol
I don’t recommend that anyone spend money on this without knowing what they’re actually getting into. $40-45 is all you need to access everything that the game has to offer.
There’s a “freefly” event coming up sometime next month if you want to try it out for yourself and see if you like it or not.
If you do decide to try it out, keep an eye out on the Bug Avoidance Thread that we posted over here: https://lemmy.world/post/27541360
The game can be very buggy, but knowing how to avoid the worst bugs can make a big difference. Even then, there are still bugs that will get you. It’s not for the faint of heart.
One thing to keep in mind about the “$40-$45 is all you need” statements that litter almost every Star Citizen thread is that the math doesn’t really work out.
As per CIG, you have around 2.5 million paying accounts (with many of them being alts). 2.5 M. * $45 gives us $112.5 M, so just 14% of their revenue.
It’s clear that they will put the overwhelming majority of their resources into something that gives them 86% of their revenues; milking whales, selling JPEGs and power creep cash items (with the vast majority of the older cash shop items being either outright non-functional or abandoned).
All you need to do is follow the money.
For me, I followed the development for about 1-2 years before buying into a starter package. Then, I didn’t spend anything else until I was confident that they would continue to deliver updates (about a year later).
I’ve continued to fund them here and there over the years when I feel like they’ve released some good content, but that’s because I’m comfortable supporting them.
No one actually needs to do that. With $45 you can just go out and do some FPS missions where, at the end, you’re rewarded with some of the higher end ships (Contested Zone gameplay).
Even easier is that you can just hijack an NPC/abandoned ship and, as long as you store it in your hangar at the end of each session, you can keep on using it for anything.
There’s really no need to actually pay for anything beyond the initial starter ship because almost everything else is earnable/hijackable in-game.
why are you comfortable supporting someone who’s obviously wasting money
It’s ok to admit you bought into a scam…
I’ve had more fun playing this “scam” over the last few years than any other game.
I’m getting some strong “STOP HAVING FUN!” vibes from you…
It really depends on how you define “scam”. It’s not a scam by how I would define it.
With the loosest definition possible, sure. I bought into a scam. I’m not a fan of all their marketing tactics.
But the game is playable enough for me and I really enjoy playing it. I did my research and I knew what I was paying into at the time. I’ve gotten my money’s worth already and I’m still enjoying it, which is a lot better than what I can say for some other games out there.
It’s a company that has taken in hundreds if millions of dollars for something that they know will never materialize into an actual game.
We had a really confident businessman come into my rural college town 6 years ago with a big development plan that was going to revolutionize the downtown. He graduated from the local college 20 years ago and was supposedly some hot shot businessman in Miami now. He brought in all these local investors, signed agreements to purchase the land once the city gave him approval and grants, “purchased” a house and some other properties that were going to go along. He took up several city council meetings wherre he brought in his big design plans, feasibility studies, and everything else. But everytime he had to show he had the funds to get approval for development,he hemmed and hawwed and asked for an extension.
It turns out, he had made a similar pitch to quite a few other small towns. The house he “purchased” he actually was just renting, and then sub-renting it out while he was “out of town on business”. He didn’t put any of his own money in, relying instead in local businesses and landowners who signed him onto their deeds or gave him right to first refusal on their deliapadated properties. His 'feasibility studies" all came from a firm no one could find any actual information about. Fortunately no one really lost anything beyond a lot of time and legal fees backing out if his bad faith contracts, but it’s established that the “developer” was really just a conman trying to grift the town. A scam.
Star Citizen is no different than any of the metaverse crypto scams from 4 years ago, it’s just a bit more polished and at a grander scale. If you think that $800 million to develop a half-backed game that doesn’t deliver on any of it’s fundamental promoses isn’t a scam, then i would love to pitch my riverfront development project to you when you have the time.
Thanks for typing that out. I really appreciate the example from your own experience. I’m glad your city didn’t get in too deep with that scammer.
There are a lot of different kinds of scams, not all of them are the best for comparing to something like game development, so maybe we can find something a bit more applicable (like No Man’s Sky).
No Man’s Sky made a lot of big promises leading up to it’s initial release.
Was No Man’s Sky a scam while it was under initial development?
Was No Man’s Sky a scam when it first released?
If yes, was it still a scam while Sean continued to improve the game with the first few updates?
Would you consider No Man’s Sky to be a scam in its current state today?
scam implies that you didn’t know what you were getting into, for almost a decade you could easily tell star citizen wouldn’t release soon, therefore it should be considered a scam at that point in time, the early investors were scammed, but not the current ones those that feel that way are either idiots or failed to do basic research.
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If they pivot hard enough, sounds like that could be the game, lol
800 million dollars