• Alpha71@lemmy.world
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    Look, the only reason people start getting conservative, is when needs and wants start getting harder to acquire. Want to change that? then have affordable living make a come back. There’s a reason why a decade ago people were more liberal, because shit was more affordable.

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      19 hours ago

      I’ve lived in a small rural prairie riding all my life. It’s been not conservative one term in the last 40-50 years. The people who complain the most about Canada being broken are the ones who have owned their houses since the 90’s and worked the same jobs for pretty much as long and have the health care system all their long lives and starting to collect cpp even while continuing to work, as long as it doesn’t put them too much into the next tax bracket. They can’t really explain how Canada is broken for them, beyond talking points. They can’t really explain what they think Conservatives will do to fix the things they don’t really know are wrong. They just vote conservative because liberal bad. The fuck Carney signs came out the day after he was confirmed as Liberal party leader. There was no time to formulate a hate for him, it was immediately implemented mindlessly

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        How long have the Liberals been in power? And did they do anything about the current cost of living crisis? They’ve had every opportunity to fix this situation but they haven’t. There’s a reason why a Conservative win was predicted before trump went off his meds.

        DO I think Conservatives would do better in power? Hell no, but they were at least saying “hey, we’ll fix this so you can live on your current wages again.”

        The fact that they were American Republican Lite didn’t matter.

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          I mean they did a fuck of a lot more than Harper!! Do you REMEMBER what life was like under Harper?? PP isn’t a clone of Trump. He’s a protégé of HARPER, a controlling, paranoid little facsimile. All this shit with oppressive narcissistic control of the press is exactly how Harper behaved.

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          So because they’re willing to say anything to get elected they’re a better option? What have the conservatives actually done in the last 30 years to help working class Canadians? Are we supposed to suddenly trust them now that they realize they have to have actual policies instead of just ‘hate this one guy’? Are we meant to ignore decades of Polivere’s voting record?

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              17 hours ago

              Yes, but the question is why. Is it based on logic based reasons or due to the misinformation campaign? Because they think the current Conservatives will actually do anything to make substantial changes to address these issues or because idiots like Rogan and Mcleary tell them to hate the other side? Is it because they’re not getting enough or just because someone else is getting something?

              It’s not like anybody is going to start building thousands of $500000+ houses and selling them at cost to the middle class. The only thing the feds would do to address housing would be to build low cost housing again. I can imagine how that would go over with the crowd we’re talking about

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          There’s a reason why a Conservative win was predicted before trump went off his meds.

          What

          How long have the Liberals been in power? And did they do anything about the current cost of living crisis?

          Man you are going off

          Yes, people are shit ass at understanding economics. Neither liberalism nor conservatives are great at balancing budget. But conservatives sute as shit are a whole lot worse at it.

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            Yes, The Conservatives in polling were looking at a possible majority acording to then current polls. But once trump showed his ass and the Liberals didn’t back down, the Liberals polling numbers went way up. It probably also helped that Justin was forced decided to stand down as the Party leader.

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        Eh became conservative when my liberal government started banning a hobby I recently found relieved stress.

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      This is correct, but I’d just like to add, it’s because conservatives always provide simple answers, to complex issues because they don’t actually care about fixing anything.

      Housing too expensive? It’s the immigrants!

      Food too expensive? It’s the liberal regulations!

      Taxes too high? We’ll lower them!

      Every issue, they provide a simple, yet absolute bullshit fix for, but it’s easy to understand and for a simple mind, simple solutions are the answer.

      Liberals have failed to make progress on these issues because in part there’s corruption, ineptitude, but for the most part because the solutions required are complex and take a long time to fix. And no-one has the courage to say this shit is fucked and we need a fix that addresses all of the facets of the problem.