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Does political propaganda count?
that’s the worst kind of advertisements; especially the subtle ones.
No kidding, if I happen to hear an ad on a tv or radio I’m passing by I plug my ears and go lalalalala until I or it are gone. I truly can’t stand them that much, it’s a psychotic invention meant to constantly brainwash you into becoming a mindless consumption robot and I refuse to partake.
Advertising isn’t inherently negative, but people naturally push back when they feel their attention is being taken for granted. Respect for the audience makes all the difference.
Advertising can feel overwhelming when it stops being informative and starts feeling intrusive. The balance between visibility and respect for attention is important.
Actively hostile relationship with advertising
Describes defensive relationship with advertising.
Smh. Actively hostile relationship is like throwing bricks at their offices, or, at the very least, calling their support and bogging them down with stupid questions with no intention to buy their services. Or… spreading information on why you shouldn’t use their services.
I’ll start: Ground News is a site based on the stupidest idea ever and it’s use is actively dangerous for the society. It steals traffic from real news sources doing actual grunt work, and then has the gall to ask you to pay them for it. It teaches you to turn off your critical thinking and to just trust them on rating news sources biases which they pull from… where, exactly? Ah yeah, straight out of their arses. But worst of all, they put left and right outlets on equal pedestals as if both have the same merit, promoting this weird centrist position of half left ideas and half literal fascism. American fascism, to be precise, because those ratings don’t even make sense outside of USA. For example, they’ve rated Al Jazeera, the news agency wholly owned by an authoritarian monarchy state, as “left leaning”. Like, what?
Invasive ads are my reference to not buying the product.
They all lulled us with meme culture. Instead what we need was to create anti ads. Any time your podcast or content creator started showing ads, we should have made all kinds of bullshit about those products.
For every ad that sucked our free time, we could have produced at least 2 anti ads. Like when a podcast advertised for zockdoc or whatever, we all needed to leave comments like “pretty sure they told my aunt she had cancer even though it was just a cough” or if it’s some drop shipper on reddit acting like they just found this cool temu star lamp then every comment should have been about how these lights burst into flames and killed your entire family.
We need to make the internet as hostile as possible to advertisers. They are reason we are tracked and why have enshittification.
My entire homelab is constructed with the unofficial goal of never watching any advertisements ever.
Ads? Ah, those annoying stupid things I watch in TV. Online I don’t see any of these since more than 10 years.
We just had a sporting event in the US where people are more interested in the ads than the actual event itself.
I try and block everything all the time. the fight is real. PipePipe for youtube , Firefox + Ublock for web . Exploited firestick with Wolf Launcher and SmartTube on TV , Linux on all PCs , DeGoogled phone (wip) and Adguard DNS on the router. Windows PC’s at work with copilot, onedrive removed and ooshutup10 . Also use a few modded apps such as Tubi with no ads and my sleep music app with no ads. Probably more ive forgotten but always open to suggestions and the work is never done.
Grayjay is better than PipePipe. I use Freetube on my computer. SmartTube is the best. I love that app so much.
Grayjay
I’ve heard of it but never tried. I’ll give it a go. can I get it on F-droid ?. I don’t use Youtube alot on my phone, I listen to the Wan show and do yoga every night haha Thank you!
I’m pretty sure I installed it directly from Github
Another word for “marketing” or “advertisement” is Manipulation. Shady, manipulative, tactics.
Fuck them. I love Lemmy because it seems like the ratio of like-minded people is much larger here. Nothing better than seeing other principled people that would rather give up some comforts than deal with ads and bend the knee to the pieces of shit that try to push them.
Even products in the supermarket (such as bread!!) come with ads in the fucking plastic wrapper. I have changed my bread brand due to this. I will absolutely give up any comfort to avoid your manipulation. I will fucking shower in cold water if it means I don’t bend the knee to pieces of shit.
It’s been a minute so I could be misremembering, but you’re not far off. Another word for public relations (the shaping of public opinion) is propaganda.
Edward Bearnays wrote a book titled Propaganda, where he talks about the need to rebrand the work of Propagandist after it became associated with negative influence during WW2. From what I recall he used the term public relations, but seemed to prefer the term propaganda.
He’s also the person infamous for convincing Americans that we should eat bacon and eggs for breakfast. Another interesting story is about how he advertised to make music rooms in homes trendy, so he could help sell more pianos.
He talks about some of the early manipulation tactics advertisers use. Such as trying to sell you an experience instead of a product. Think of how modern car commercials show a lifestyle more than they show you the car.
It’s an enlightening book that shows that before the war, calling an advertiser a propagandist wouldn’t be out of place. Those propagandist manipulated us into calling the PR now.
Oh, and if I recall correctly propaganda comes from Latin and means “to propagate.”
Another word for “marketing” or “advertisement” is Manipulation.
Don’t worry they’ve solved that, it’s called 🩷 𝐼𝓃𝒻𝓁𝓊𝑒𝓃𝒸𝒾𝓃𝑔 😎. That’s much less ominous! They just influence!
Well said. It disgusts me a lot, and it also dismays me to see a lot of people don’t care at all about ads. I even rememeber people in my old job talking about ads on tv. Boggles my mind.
If I am forced to see or interact with an ad I will do absolutely everything in my power to excise that ad source from my life.
I think social media for profit played a large role in getting a new generation of ad acceptance, since most use the official app with third party apps generally dead.
So they are going to get exposed to ads using it on their phones, and then there’s the users themselves seeing social as something to try to use to make money so you got human being like living ads too.
I wonder though if pressing “skip” is a good idea in terms of privacy / not giving them what they want. I don’t think this was implemented for our “convienience” and rather as yet another manipulation technique.
Just some ideas what I assume they achieve by this:
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By pressing it you have to divert your attention towards the ad, even if it is just for a short time.
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You might unintentionally signal your preferences which could be used for profile enrichment
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You also provide information, that you are still actively at the device an watching (I assume ad providers have more interest on having more/longer ads on content that is actively watched)
That’s not the case entirely, at least in my case. When I’m forced to watch ads when using the official YouTube app in one of my smart tvs, I’ve built habit to click mute and grab my phone. There’s usually just right amount of time to fex reply a message. Within the edge of my vision I can still see the timer changing to Next or Skip prompting me to get back to the video. No doubt they will soon make that less obvious…
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Stop doing this nonsense manually !
- Skipping ads ? Use uBlock Origin !
- Skipping sponsorships ? Use SponsorBlock !
thnx for advertising those to us.
/jk
