“What we’re hearing right now, at a time when it really matters, is … that we’re giving in.”

“What we’re hearing right now, at a time when it really matters, is … that we’re giving in,” Neve said. “We’re not prepared to be that bold leader in that ‘middle power’ space. Instead, we are capitulating to the ‘might is right’ world that Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu are intent on forging.”

  • patatas@sh.itjust.worksOP
    5·
    6 days ago

    Edit: The article you linked contradicts your own summary of it. That’s not good faith argumentation.

    Anyway: Canada’s military chief says allies to talk defending Gulf states from Iran: Canada’s defence chief Gen. Jennie Carignan said allies are in talks about possibly helping Persian Gulf states defend themselves against bombing from Iran. Speaking to reporters at a defence and security conference in Ottawa Thursday, Carignan said a meeting is set for early Friday morning to discuss such a proposal among allied militaries and the Canadian Armed Forces would present a recommendation to the government.

    • FaceDeer@fedia.io
      42·
      6 days ago

      Canada’s defence chief Gen. Jennie Carignan said allies are in talks

      Emphasis added.

      I just said to pay less attention to what’s being said and more to what’s being done. Talk is cheap, and it’s going to result in a recommendation. ie, talk that results in something being said.

      • patatas@sh.itjust.worksOP
        3·
        6 days ago

        I notice you didn’t pull a direct quote from the article you posted: “About 200 members of the Canadian Armed Forces are deployed in the Middle East on six different operations, but some are being moved to other areas or brought back to Canada as a result of the outbreak of war in the region.” (emphasis added)

        • FaceDeer@fedia.io
          23·
          6 days ago

          I didn’t pull that quote because it’s unclear how it makes any difference. As long as the troops aren’t deployed in the Middle East how are they going to help the war against Iran?

          • patatas@sh.itjust.worksOP
            3·
            6 days ago

            Did you read the quote? Because it shows that your first reply, where you said

            Canada is withdrawing troops that were already stationed in the region when the Americans attacked.

            was misrepresenting the actual situation. In fact, the article you linked also said that

            Six others are being deployed abroad to act as liaison officers in the event that the military is asked to assist in civilian evacuations in the region

            which is quite different from what you said:

            A few are remaining in place specifically to provide assistance with further evacuations if needed.

            Anyway as for the other quote

            "About 200 members of the Canadian Armed Forces are deployed in the Middle East on six different operations, but some are being moved to other areas or brought back to Canada as a result of the outbreak of war in the region.”

            the implication of the word “some”, in this context, is that “most” of the troops that were already there will remain there. And there are discussions happening in a few hours about whether to send more. Are you deliberately trying to misrepresent the situation?

            • FaceDeer@fedia.io
              33·
              6 days ago

              You are trying really really really hard to find every possible little way to interpret this situation as “Fuck Carney” fodder. Accusing me of “deliberately trying to misinterpret the situation” is rich.