• Binzy_Boi@lemmy.ca
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    So you’re of the opinion that we should just say “fuck you” to indigenous people and their treaty rights, and just continue exploiting the resources of their ancestral lands that we invaded and violated their rights to all to make a quicker buck?

    What do you think is going to happen, that indigenous people are just gonna say “nah” and purposely be a pain in the ass for the government? Cause if that’s what you think of them, which this thought process of “oh this just gets in the way of things” heavily implies, then perhaps that’s a you problem and not a problem of the government’s to respect and reconcile with the people it’s fucked over since Europeans and the likes stepped foot here.

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      Well do you want functioning hospitals, a social safety net, things like that? Those take actual money, current account balance, exports. You also happen to think healthcare should be a human right I would assume?

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        Answer the question directly. Do you, or do you not respect the rights of indigenous people to their ancestral lands? Do you or do you not believe they have the right to dictate the projects that happen on their treaty lands and how they benefit from those projects?

        Or do you want to see Canada see the profits of the exploitation of these resources, all while these people continue to beg for fucking potable water, left behind yet again by the federal government?

        Tell us how you really feel about indigenous people rather than hide it behind this thin veil.

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            “Not a tiny selection of them who want to maximize rent seeking”.

            Ah yes, indigenous people. The greediest people in the country. Get the fuck out of here with your garbage. Human rights are not on the debate table, and you frankly saying they want to “maximize rent” as if they’re leeching to profit off the country rather than have a means to reasonably support themselves fiscally is downright disgusting.

            If a rich person decided to buy the resources off the indigenous, and they decided it was in their best interest to take the offer, then yeah, while I’d be opposed to the idea of that, it’s still their treaty rights to decide for themselves.

            Treaty rights are human rights and they are not on the table, and to suggest otherwise in any matter is to ignore the bullshit indigenous people have had to deal with for generations. They are to be included in the conversation because they are quite literally more “Canadian” than anybody else in the country and deserve to have their voices heard and their standard of living raised just as any other person’s should be with harvesting our natural resources.

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              I just have to say, I really appreciate you on this forum and thank you for standing up to ignorant people like them as regularly as you do. It is refreshing to see. :)

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                  I showed we had the slowest growth in the OECD due to this same bureaucracy, you’re hurting those you think you are helping, these things fund our safety net.

                  When we hit a recession you won’t be able to blame greedy corporations for our ills, it will have been those putting up barricades for growth. We have food bank usage rising extremely quickly, people living in rest stops, and we haven’t even hit a recession yet.

                  By every metric Canada is not hurting as much as you want to pretend. We can do much better, but this narrative of a broken Canada is populist nonsense.

                  Use your brain and realize “Record food bank usage” isn’t ideal, but it is great to know that the safety net has provided food to those who needed it when they needed it.

                  This is happening globally and we do not need people like you stoking fires. If you want to shit on policy have your own alternatives to back it up or sit down and let the adults talk.