But this is exactly the thing, strong economies are built on small amounts changing hands often. There are no situations where the economy is strong because we hand our money over to corporations. If Carney was truly the guy for our economy he wouldn’t be doing most of the things he’s doing when it comes to hurting the average person and damaging our country for private oil and gas companies.

He doesn’t give a shit about us but we’re absurdly gullible and, to rephrase my earlier Aragorn/Denethor comment “yes the progressives are looking towards studies, history, and advice from experts in the field but this Carney guy understands the economy because he’s a banker!” and we say that while almost everyone will agree, for one reason or another and to varying degrees, that banks are institutionalized theft. It sounds good unless you actually put any amount of thought into it and we are not thinking.

If you hope for an NDP future then you have to support it even when it’s scary. We keep kneecapping them and then complaining when they don’t have the power to do the objectively better things they promise. They even still manage to get some shit done when they can create coalitions and force the Liberals to actually do some good for the country. The NDP is the reason why we have even a small amount of dental coverage, for example, and then we go off about how they don’t know politics the same like what the hell are we smoking?

I’ll never get what people mean when they say that Singh “wasn’t ready” while voting for a bunch of losers who had no business being in government and who, even if they were “ready”, used that readiness to fuck us over. Imagine if the people of Middle Earth looked at Aragorn* and said “well he’s never been king before and Denethor might be straight-up insane but he UnDeRsTaNdS pOLiTiCs and with Sauron right there is now really the Right Time™?”. That’d be crazy, and we’d all have walked out of the theatre, yet we’re doing exactly that.

*I’m not saying Singh is Aragorn-like and will not engage with anyone ignoring the obvious message in favour of hanging on that part of an analogy.

This is the most illiterate, brain-dead take of what I’ve been saying. Yea, I hate democracy because I want us to vote for the parties which align with our beliefs and I think that the party which canned any hope of voting reform, specifically because it would mean they would start losing if we got to really choose, is a party of liars that we shouldn’t support. Ya know, because they were told the only way to win was to steal elections and they values winning more than democracy. And I’M the one who hates democracy? Get so bent, coward.

The Liberals a) are going more right over time so that’s hardly fixing anything at any pace and b) we do not have 200+ years for things to slowly get better when we have the scientific community screaming and begging us to do the right thing today. We don’t have time for broken promises and feel-good speeches made by those whose actions do not support the words they’re saying.

Horrible, obviously. But why do we constantly force ourselves into steadily worse situations with the center-right to the point where we even have to consider that at all? And besides, that’s always the same lame excuse. It’s going to come up eventually and we may as well be equipped to fight back, unlike right now were we just have Harper style Conservatives instead of PP style ones. Congrats, we’re fucking stupid.

IS Carney the best equipped to manage it? Says who? He’s great at fuckkng over the working class more than his party ever has, and he’s great at selling our resources instead of controlling them and building our national strength. He’s also tip-toeing around the US like he’s afraid of them after running on that “elbows up” nonsense.

Singh was able to get the NDP to force the Liberal minority government to actually do things for people. And heck, I remembee during CERB times, when the pandemic was still cruising, how the Cons wanted to terminate the program and the Libs wanted to reduce but the NDP kept it at the full strength it needed to be at in order.

The NDP will never be enough for you people and there will always be excuses for the Liberals. Pathetic.

I’m just amazed that you were surprised. That’s how the Liberals have always been, constantly trying to play it safe except that safe has just meant doing the things that don’t piss off rich corporations or the US too much because they’re afraid of standing up for us.

Ten years ago they ran on voting reform and then, when a committee made up of people from every party said that they needed to ditch FPTP they said it was “too difficult” and then never spoke about it again because that same committee also showed them that they would lose a lot of ground if people got to actually choose what they wanted. Doing that they openly stated that they don’t give a single flying fuck about democracy and we STILL consider them a serious party? Yea, fuck that noise.

If everyone who voted for the party that aligned with their views I think they’d be pretty surprised at who really had “no chance of winning”. The Liberals didn’t throw voting reform in the garbage for nothing.

We had three choices. The NDP, despite people like you, had over the half the votes that the Liberals got in 2021. The “strategic” thing to do would have been for usual Liberal voters to have voted NDP to try to claw our way out of this right-wing shithole but of course “strategic” voting only ever seems to go one way.

We had a choice to make and we failed. We failed because Conservatives are complete morons at every level, giving fair too much strength to people like PP, and because centrists are cowards who demand everyone else accommodate them but who will never make any real sacrifices themselves. We failed because “strategic” voters caved to pressure and fear and voted against their principles and against the longterm health of the country.

And, as always, choosing the center has made it worse. “To ensure it didn’t get worse” is what comes from the mouths of the ignorant. Trudeau only got worse as time went on, and Carney is even more right-wing than he was. Don’t you dare act like you saved anyone from anything.

A liar? A guy who busts union strikes who rides in on his high horse to tell everyone else they need to create a new world order? The guy who sells our natural resources to private companies for a quick buck and lays off thousands of government jobs in a time where those people will have an immensely difficuly time getting jobs? The guy who handles finances like a conservative?

You hoped for someone to create a progressive new future and you voted for Carney? And you’re just admitting that openly? That’s wild, dude.

Carney, and the Liberals and centrists in general, constantly resist real change. He acts more like a conservative than anything, and even very recently tried to screw over the Air Canada attendants when they tried to fight for fair pay. He’s selling off our resources to private companies and laying off government workers during a time where those people will seriously struggle to find new work.

The speech was decent, I guess, but coming from Carney it’s just a bad joke. Like Trudeau kneeling with the BLM protesters, he’s demanding better behaviour from world leaders while being a world leader who can’t behave himself. Pretty, empty words from a weak man.

We should listen and form a new world order, and we should make sure that he doesn’t get to pretend like he was on the right side of history.

It’s the US, they sent a guy home because he had a silly picture of JD Vance on his phone.

Eh, it’s really not that cool and ultimately is just a weeb’s (roman style) idea of what a parliament building should look like. A rip-off of a rip-off. That’s not even me being bitter about recent events, I remember not even knowing enough to hate the US and visiting DC in highschool and I just could not care less.

I also like how our centrists have been ineffective as well as theirs, and we can watch in realtime how worthless that stance is when it comes to fighting people who want total submission.

Then again, people also aren’t seeing what’s happening to the south because they’re ignorant.

Yea maybe, but at this point I don’t like to accept that too readily. None of us alive were there when we actually had to just listen to what Britain was telling us, and there’s still no reason we can’t change for the better today.

And there are good Canadian companies, sometimes we don’t notice it but it’s still true. I remember thinking “ah fuck I have to buy from the US” trying to get a Graphtech bass guitar nut only to learn that the name brand product for that stuff is actually Canadian.

We’re just a bunch of defeatists, for no reason, and I’m getting tired of it. We give up without even the slightest fight and then tell ourselves that that’s just how it goes despite being in full control the entire time.

Or any of the other horrible things they’ve done. Then again, the most Canadian thing I can possibly think of is leaving a bad situation for one that’s quite possibly even worse but that you haven’t thought of in slightly more time.

A man looks at three cups. One is full of sewer muck, one of poison, and one of water. After sucking on the sewer muck for a bit he claims he wants a change and chugs the poison because the water just isn’t exciting enough. I can’t tell you what was in the muck or what kind of poison he drank but I’d bet my life on him having been Canadian.

It’s a very US thing to do, that, blaming the adult store instead of or alongside their soldiers.

“He’s playing 4D chess” he’s letting a demented senior boss him around and he doesn’t care because he’s too busy selling off our natural resources and trying to bust union strikes. Carney’s a fucking idiot conservative who I have zero trust in.

If he really wanted to bolster us against the rise of fascism he’d give us the election reform we were promised a decade ago. He doesn’t give a shit about that.

Oof.

Lol where did I say I wanted to start a war and burn everything down? I hope you’re rejected from the reserves, you are not mentally stable. “Righteous anger” brother you need therapy, not a weapon.

You’re also a fucking coward who seems to be really eager to carry a gun for Carney but can’t even vote for themselves. Just a little baby who wants to shoot their way out instead of doing anything that might be genuinely effective.

You don’t know shit, apparently you don’t even have a firm grasp on knowing how to read.

The working class slinging in behind conservatives is one of the reasons I know we’re so stupid. Conservative just have to put on a cowboy hat and say some lies and these morons go right along with it. Helps they have a lot of mutual racism, sexism, and homophobia, of course.

Living a good life for me is playing music and D&D and shit, it’s separate from the rest. That said, things getting better make mean not having as great a time as we want. I’m in a pretty privileged situation so I don’t want to act like I’m some kind of hero but I’ve also been without a job for almost two years and am still willing to take the risks necessary for the longterm health of the country. Getting better is not often comfortable.