The NDP not left? The ones who weren’t even in power and used a coalition to force Liberals to get us even the start of a dental plan? They’re not gunna help you? Have you tried voting for them and at least seeing what happens?
Yes, we are fucked, but it’s because we’re stupid(you especially, apparently). A revolution done by stupid people won’t solve anything but it will cause a lot of suffering.
If we are at the point where we need to engage in the anti-democracy of strategic voting because enough of the country is already loving what the Conservatives are up to then we are already well on the path. There’s no “starting on the path” when we’re already halfway down it. We need to get off this train, not just slow it down, because we’re going the wrong direction and have been for a while.
The US is a perfect, contemporary example of this. Even today there are people in that country like “if this next bad thing happens then we’re really in it!” and it’s like, brother, ya’ll’ve been in it for decades now! We gotta stop pretending like these things aren’t problems yet because it gives us a false sense of security and we don’t fight obviously bad shit when it’s weak enough that we actually can fight it. Our next election is going to be a fucking disaster unless the Liberals suddenly decide to allow ranked-choice voting to be a thing but otherwise people treat them as the default and we’re gunna hear the same bullshit “but I HAD to strategic vote this time because…” no matter how awesome the NDP leader is.
We have fucked ourselves out of the comfortable resistance.
The problem is that everyone always feels like it’s important “this time”, but all it really does is strengthen the centrists who end up giving the Conservatives material to work with. Every election is further reinforcement of that with a weakening of the party you really wanted. Your vote always counts and it is your civic duty to make sure it speaks for you or else the whole thing falls apart. Why do you think the Liberals were so against the voting reform they promised?
And as far as the NDP goes it’s insane how many excuses people will make to not vote for them. Just admit you don’t want to, I’d respect that more. The NDP used the coalition to force the Liberals to actually do a few useful things and genuinely seems to at least vaguely care about Canadians but everyone talks about “Charisma” as if Trudeau was really anything more than hot in that regard or as if Carney was anything more than an available Liberal.
Strategic voting is always a net-negative in the longterm and it’s incredibly hard to claw your way out of once you reinforce a two-party system in a FPTP setup. Do it anyway.
So long as all the “strategic” voters get their heads out of their rotten, fetid assholes, at least.
Sure am glad everyone “strategically” voted for the Liberals! We got what we deserved: A stupid government for a stupid people. The half that went straight for goddamn Pierre Poilievre prove further that we really don’t have a damn clue.
Amen.
Never a good reason, it only delays bad shit until it’s even worse and cripples the opposition you wanted all along. Strategic voting is dogshit in every way.
Fun fact, even with our shitty voting system if everyone votes a certain way things will go that way. It’s not a gamble, we can just vote for what we want. We can delay it and try to fix it when it’s even harder and more dangerous or start now.
Frankly, considering what the US has said they wanted to do to us, I’m ok with making goods from there more expensive for people who don’t want to boycott. I’m ok with any purchases made from US companies costing more even if I find myself doing it for one reason or another, too, no matter how legitimate or innocent I personally think my reasons are.
You either have a bad opinion or aren’t articulate enough to get your point across and your crappy attitude isn’t helping anything.
You’re a weird person. It’s interesting you go after someone for being “dramatic” but seem to be a sort of poison all on your own.
And even then, depending on where you live, 4km to the shops is pretty ridiculous. I walk/metro to everything and take the car only for very rare Ikea trips and stuff. Even rural towns needn’t be so spread out so most of those folks should be able to walk their village, too.
The US is the kinda place that will call itself the greatest country on earth by people that also claim they need to carry a gun at all times because it’s so dangerous everywhere they go.
Looking for peace and doing preventative maintenance really isn’t their thing.
The thing about Europe is that, even with the diversity of geography, languages, cultures, and histories the collection we know as “Europe” still finds itself doing better than the US by most metrics.
They generally have more rights and protections, better healthcare(easy), and often times populations that are more willing to get out and fight back when they need to(despite a lack of guns that’s wild, huh?). They also have the EU to help with a lot of that which also has the implication that countries who find that sort of thing important also care about the stuff that the EU does.
And, of course, if we didn’t say “Europe” we’d have to list all the countries that blow the US out of the water on pretty much any positive metric and their fragile little egos couldn’t take it(plus it would take forever).
That keeps leading to centrist coddling and validating the most absurd bullshit. It’s impossible to meet them where they’re at when they don’t live in the same reality as, ya know, reality.
I mean, for fuck’s sake, 90% of what they want could actually be socialist policy but they so desperately want to make sure the shitty aspects are still there that they won’t stop supporting obvious criminals. Like, they want cheaper groceries, better wages, and a bunch of other stuff that they agree with right up until you point out that what they actually want is socialism if they’d just drop the racism and hatred parts.
And what the fuck are we supposed to do to reach someone who thinks Doug Ford is an upstanding guy? How do we reach the centrists who blindly follow a relativistic way of looking at politics where they’d vote for pretty much anything so long as it wasn’t the most extreme option in any direction? Harris fucked around with Republicans instead of doing a good job and look at the US. Mamdani is going full no-compromising with assholes and it’s going amazingly. Carney only won because the Liberals still haven’t given us electoral reform and our population is full of short-sighted “strategic” voters who couldn’t strategize their way out of a paper bag and who think that they’re enlightened because they voted for a relative middle distance.
No, fuck Conservatives. The only thing that should be meeting them where they’re at is a bulldozer. If they want to be part of reality they can move their own asses over here. I’m sick of coddling their stupid, hateful, baseless feelings.
Like the other guy said, it has the Grand Hub now, and he difficulty has always made sense(we’ve gotten good over a couple/few games and it’s still only high rank) but I can assure you that two Arch Tempered apexes are a lot of fun. My friend and I got rekt by Uth Duna and it took is a good while on the second try, very rewarding.
Also it’s totally ok to feel Monster Huntered out. Borderlands 4 is coming out and while I have ungodly hours in the first two and enjoyed the third well enough, I’m playing Wonderlands right now and it’s just “pretty good” despite me knowing full well that objectively it’s got cool new mechanics, a good story line, replay potential, and all that other good stuff. Oh, I’m also holding out for a 50% or greater sale because Randy Pitchford is an asshole).
Ok, we should talk about those, too. But very much we should talk about this one, especially since a lot of our tax money goes to propping the oppressors up.
The NDP guy in my own riding is that guy you’re looking for, and I’m sure there are others. I remember this Singh guy who maintained leadership despite not winning first try, too, maybe you should look him up. And I’m positive that I’ve had plenty of other communications from them other than begging for donations and I don’t remember any emails or anything begging for donations, either.
I’m not saying you’re lying on purpose, but what you are saying isn’t exactly reality, either.
I don’t really know anyone in the Conservative party besides the nutjobs in power, and I know Liberals because they also had power.
I know the NDP people I’ve voted for, but why would I know everyone else all that intimately? There’s a lot going on and they’re not exactly regularly in the news(which is a pretty good thing, for politicians).
To be fair to them, they’re dealing with a lot “strategic” voters. Two elections ago their votes really weren’t all that far behind the other two. For their 3.5mil votes they got ~25 seats and for their 5.5mil votes the Liberals got ~155; since people only see seats they just assume that NDP aren’t popular. This last time people got really “strategic” because the Conservatives are fucking awful and going even harder at it than ever. Every time we have a cycle that, things get just a little bit worse and now we have to claw ourselves out of it from so much further down the hole.
Even in first past the post anyone can win if you vote for them. The problem with the system is the scare tactics centrists can use to get votes from progressives. We need ranked choice really badly.
Ok, for the sake of not having this conversation spiral out of control, I’m going to throw out your use of the word mandatory. You can’t say that you believe vaccines should be mandatory and also that you support the idea that people should be able to decide for themselves, no matter how much you would hope that education would lead to mass vaccination and generally doing the right thing.
“Mandatory” specifcally means that whether or not you want it, you have to get it. There is no choice in anything “mandatory” and if there is then it is definitionally not mandatory. I understand your point, and I don’t even fully disagree as I would also love to live in a world where people actually do the right thing without being forced to.
You don’t need to agree with what she said considering all of it is the maximum level of hypocrisy.