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    “After paying a broker $50,000 over MSRP to be one of the first people to own a Cybertruck”

    I mean, come on lmao

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    It is likely a fake story.

    1. The E-Scooter would have needed to hit that Cybertruck at like MACH 3 to do enough damage to warrant a total loss.
    2. He can refuse the total loss and demand they do repairs … yes, that is an option.
    3. The article is adding a $50k delivery fee to the value of the vehicle. This guy allegedly agreed to pay and finance Fifty Thousand Dollars to have a car delivered … everyone involved in doing this could be considered stupid.
    4. There is no way this guy is stupid enough to not have Gap coverage (unless he is MAGA, then I take it back).

    In a case like this the guy would have insurance over a barrel. He could turn down the total loss and demand repairs for so many reasons; The total loss is financially ruinous He could claim an emotional impact is involved in losing the vehicle and it needs repaired.

    If this story is true, no one is dumb enough (except MAGA) to just accept the total loss payout and not sue the insurance company.

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      MAGA is 70+mil people in the US and intelligence is less of a steep climb after that and more of painful, barely perceptible slope toward eventual mediocrity. As for the E-Scooter, you’d be amazed how easy it is to damage a Cybertruck, and remember that total losses are connected more to repair costs than anything and these heaps of garbage can be very expensive to repair properly. Whether or not the guy challenges them on it I do not doubt that they easily could have declared it a total loss.

      I feel like, at this point, if you say “no one could be that dumb” then you are using yourself to prove that they absolutely could be. It could even be fake in the end but you’re not right if you stumbled upon the correct answer using deeply flawed logic and got lucky.

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        No, I “stumbled” onto the answer because I have 4 years of total loss specialty appraisal experience and know exactly what I’m talking about.

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          And yet, if you look at my comment, I was specifically talking about how the last decade has been marked by people saying “no one could be that dumb” and then watching them all be that dumb and here you are, repeating history. So, job specific experience not required.

          And aside from that I know people with decades of career experience who are dumber than rocks and barely squeak by simply because our society is a farce. I’ll say that’s probably not you, but it’s far from impossible.

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      Plus I just don’t see how a bank would be willing to finance the $50k broker fee. Cars can end up underwater from depreciation, but I’ve never heard of a bank willingly lending more than the purchase price of a new car, to where it’s underwater at the transaction.

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        Tesla did the financing for a lot of those, and they did finance the crazy delivery fees.

        Dumb and wasteful

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    Ok … Help me out here … Is this an onion article? My only hint is the e-scooter but given the complete god awful design of that truck I can’t even tell anymore.

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    On the face of it, this might seem like a grave injustice committed by the insurance company; however, sadly, looking at the current Cybertruck secondary market, $77,000 is about the fair market value for a similarly spec’d Cybertruck.

    I don’t see what the problem is then? Like you take the 77k, buy an identical used truck and are back at where you were before the accident which is the whole point of insurance…

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    I don’t know who is the biggest moron here the idiot buying a cybertruck or the idiotic banker approving a 200k loan for a cybertruck.

    Either way… LMFAO 🤣

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    What’s the problem? He got $77k because that’s what’ll cost him to buy a used Cybertruck, which will put him back to where he was before the accident. The financial loss he’s taken already happened way before the accident.

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    imagine spending 200k on a cybertruck and getting totaled by an escooter this guy is a fucking moron

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    Probably hard to find any recycled parts because there are so few of them on the road, and buying a new part is probably expensive and timely. I’m sure Telsa isn’t allowing any LKQ production either. And even if you get a part, you have to go to a shop that can work on the car, which will be expensive because who’s going to want to work on a vehicle that rusts when you look at it? Even if it seems fine, once someone is in an accident, every single thing that happens next will be the accident. Rear ended six months ago? Yup, that’s why your tire blew, not the nail in it. So that person will keep coming back. The new piece is rusted, the new piece isn’t as straight, the new piece buckled. An insurance company will absolutely total a car not just because the repairs are over the costs, but if it seems like it’s always going to have issues, they’ll make a decision to total it as the cheaper option. They do that with rodent issues all the time. And during all this, depending on his coverage, he’s racking up rental. And rental always runs out.

    He’s complaining about standard insurance practices. They don’t owe you the overpriced amount the dealership talked you into, they owe ACV/Actual Cash Value. The moment you leave the lot, it’s losing money. It doesn’t matter how great you took care of it, or if it’s like new. You don’t get the brand new, off the lot price, for a vehicle that’s no longer brand new, off the lot.

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        Yup. It’ll likely be an endorsement and mean increase the premiums, but you can totally do that. Some may have a soft limit, like insurscing replacement costs up to a million or what have you.

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    Oh noes! You’re having difficulty filing an insurance claim for your Swasticar? Woe unto you, the stars weep for your tragedy.

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    Fake fucking news. Why is everyone latching on to this like it was real?

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      I think he owes 171 on a 198 loan, the insurance scumbags offered him 77, leaving him with 94

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        Like others have said, $77k gets him into a used Cybertruck equivalent to what he had before. Insurance is systemically bad for so many reasons but it absolutely makes sense if it weren’t so morally corrupt and this is the part that makes sense. If I crashed my 2015 BRZ today I wouldn’t expect the full $25k I paid for it in 2018(although with the way used prices have been, I might actually get close to that, but that does not disagree with my point).

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          Admittedly I don’t know how insurance works beyond the 10k ft view of “exploiting people for profit” and I’ve never totaled a vehicle

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            Well, out of the three replies I’ve recieved in different conversations this morning you’re the first to admit that you aren’t a turbo super genius(and boy, were others obviously wrong about the topic) so despite not knowing stuff you’re still coming out way far ahead haha

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    I read the article hoping to find out how being sideswiped by an e-scooter could total a truck, but I was left unsatisfied.

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      Remember that a “totaled” vehicle doesn’t mean it can’t be used, or even that it is heavily damaged just that insurance has decided that the specific repairs needed would cost more than just paying out the current value.

      They don’t care if you get your vehicle fixed or replaced, insurance only cares about paying as little as possible using every loophole as possible.

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        Yeah, I’ve been on the other side of that, but sideswiped by a scooter? I get that they aren’t worth as much as they were, but still…

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          Cybertrucks are really, really bad for repairability. Consider the fact that on a normal car you can fix a dent by getting the panel most of the way back to the correct shape and then fairing it the rest of the way with Bondo before painting it. But with a Cybertruck, you’d have to metalwork the panel all the way back to perfect and then somehow figure out how to match the surface finish. It’s a lot more labor, if it’s even possible.

          It could be that the insurance doubts that the vehicle can be completely restored to its pre-loss condition at any price.

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            metalwork the panel all the way back to perfect

            My dude, have you ever seen a Swastikkkar? Those panels ain’t even perfect when they leave the factory.

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                Step 1: take in damaged Cybertruck.

                Step 2: do absolutely fuckall to it.

                Step 3: charge owner $6000 for repairs.

                Step 4: watch happy owner drive off.

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            i think insurances are either not covering it, or they double, triple the cost of preniums.

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      I suspect his story is bullshit. His truck was sideswiped by an e-scooter with enough force to damage the doors, wheels, deploy the airbags, and render the vehicle immobile? How fast/massive was this e-scooter? Did the e-scooter rider survive this incredible impact? None of this passes the sniff test unless there is some misalignment in the understanding of what constitutes an e-scooter or he was hit with a glancing blow by a magnetically launched scooter with a rather large rider.

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        I feel like I have to address the airbag situation. Airbags don’t deploy upon impact (at least not directly), but rather upon any significant deceleration. Anytime the vehicle decelerates enough that your body is thrown forward with force is when an [front] airbag would deploy. You know the thing where your seatbelt locks up as you’re braking? Same principle, but a higher threshold.

        So the father back up your point, I cannot see how an e-scooter, sideswiping or even being hit head-on, could cause enough deceleration that would deploy the airbags.

        Then again, it’s the cyber truck, so from a “safety” perspective who knows.

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            A different set of forces would activate those to be sure. I know rollover forces deploy side airbags.

            Again, it’s a cybertruck, so its poor craftsmanship is probably enough to blame.

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      Put a crease in the metal down the whole length of any vehicle and the bill wont be gentle.

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      OP massively overpaid for his cybertruck and now wants to blame someone else.

      Insurance is supposed to make you whole back to the situation you were in before the accident. Before the accident he had a cybertruck, and with the insurance payout he can again have an equivalent cybertruck to what he started with. The amount you originally paid for an item has nothing to do with anything

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        That’s what I don’t understand here. How the hell was his original model almost 200k??? That’s double what they’re going for brand new??

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            Yes??

            “After paying a broker 50k over msrp” still leaves 50k on the table that I don’t understand.

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              The price of the cybertruck has been majorly slashed down from its initial pricing because they weren’t being bought. OP bought it when the price was at its highest when they were first put on the market. Further showing that OP is an idiot