You have the systemd haters to thank for this one. They have wasted so much time talking shiz about a system they did not want to understand and downvoting folks posting about stuff they use. Next time you find something else useful in systemd and wonder “How come nobody told me?”, know that we tried and got drowned out by the cool kids.
They have wasted so much time talking shiz about a system they did not want to understand
You write “engineers with decades of skill pointing out obvious and blatant fundamental problems with the design and scope that first-year comp sci students would be corrected for” weird. It may require experience to spot the difference, though.
I understand the concerns about blobbification of all these system into a technical monolith that you have to swallow whole or not at all, that you can’t really break down into it’s individual components. So if the thing you need isn’t in there, you have to chuck the entire systemd thing and switch back to SysV
However, I quite like systemd so far… except for having dozens of processes, that’s not super chill to have so much stuff I don’t use running but OK, convenient.
At least it’s not like Wayland, that we have been forced into while it was barely working, and still today it’s only kinda working with lot lot lots of non-working stuff and mega jank stuff while now X11 is rotting and dying. So we’re stuck with half-dead half-lobotomized graphics system… I hope they eventually get their shit together and I wish they would have made wayland working before killing X11.
And Linux has quite some pragmatic people as well, first of all Linus Torvalds himself, who has kind of a down-to-earth approach towards ideology.
I’ve not yet talked to a SystemD hater in real life, that seems to be more predominant between random people on the internet. And I myself prefer writing SystemD unit files over what I had to do before that was a thing.
Lol. I suppose it’s a promising way to learn how someone thinks and reacts, see if they’re focused on solving issues or focused on drama… And how deep they are into Linux lore. And whether they understand it or parrot someone else’s talking points.
Idk. I rarely have long nerd discussions, but once I’m done with the latest Star Trek show, I occasionally ask people about their stance on SystemD, some instant messenger or whether we should stick to C99. And either we skip that, or maybe I’ll hear some interesting, unique perspective shaped by what they do.
You have the systemd haters to thank for this one. They have wasted so much time talking shiz about a system they did not want to understand and downvoting folks posting about stuff they use. Next time you find something else useful in systemd and wonder “How come nobody told me?”, know that we tried and got drowned out by the cool kids.
You write “engineers with decades of skill pointing out obvious and blatant fundamental problems with the design and scope that first-year comp sci students would be corrected for” weird. It may require experience to spot the difference, though.
I understand the concerns about blobbification of all these system into a technical monolith that you have to swallow whole or not at all, that you can’t really break down into it’s individual components. So if the thing you need isn’t in there, you have to chuck the entire systemd thing and switch back to SysV
However, I quite like systemd so far… except for having dozens of processes, that’s not super chill to have so much stuff I don’t use running but OK, convenient.
At least it’s not like Wayland, that we have been forced into while it was barely working, and still today it’s only kinda working with lot lot lots of non-working stuff and mega jank stuff while now X11 is rotting and dying. So we’re stuck with half-dead half-lobotomized graphics system… I hope they eventually get their shit together and I wish they would have made wayland working before killing X11.
And Linux has quite some pragmatic people as well, first of all Linus Torvalds himself, who has kind of a down-to-earth approach towards ideology.
I’ve not yet talked to a SystemD hater in real life, that seems to be more predominant between random people on the internet. And I myself prefer writing SystemD unit files over what I had to do before that was a thing.
Most people also don’t talk about init systems in real life.
I have, though, I was asked my opinion on systemd during a job interview. The interviewer didn’t give much of their own opinion but it was obvious.
Lol. I suppose it’s a promising way to learn how someone thinks and reacts, see if they’re focused on solving issues or focused on drama… And how deep they are into Linux lore. And whether they understand it or parrot someone else’s talking points.
Idk. I rarely have long nerd discussions, but once I’m done with the latest Star Trek show, I occasionally ask people about their stance on SystemD, some instant messenger or whether we should stick to C99. And either we skip that, or maybe I’ll hear some interesting, unique perspective shaped by what they do.