The last 4 Democratic Presidents have ALL been just barely left of center - Biden, Obama, Clinton, and Carter. The last true progressive we tried to run back was in '72 against Nixon and we lost so incredibly badly that people backed FAR away from trying to run a progressive candidate…go look at the results, they’re pretty insane.
Amazing how one election 50 years ago is enough to conclude that progressives can never win elections ever, but endlessly running conservative Democrats and eating shit just means you need to tack harder right. Not to mention that Obama ran considerably to the left of any other recent democrat candidate and cleaned up.
That’s not what I said. I said that from a strategy standpoint, the support was visibly not there, hence why Democrats have run a primarily centrist/left-leaning platform for decades. It looks much more progressive now thanks to the efforts of people like Bernie and AOC, but it just wasn’t there for the last 50 or so years…and I say that as a progressive. I would love to see a progressive candidate, but the reality and the data essentially stated that platforming a progressive and running a progressive campaign is statistically a losing strategy. You can get your underwear in twist and get as snippy as you want, but your 2-bit hottake doesn’t amount shit compared to the literal decades of experience that these campaign managers have.
There’s historical precedent that supports my argument, from voter sentiment and what brings in large campaign donors, to how to try and game the electoral college. So downvote me all you want, ad hominem attack me all you want. Just because you dont like my argument doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Lastly, Obama was absolutely a centrist. He was barely left of dead center. The most progressive thing about him was that he was black. He expanded our military see drone strikes. He passed ACA which further supported private healthcare, he did nothing for marijuana rescheduling. Hell, there were more deportations under Obama than Trump. There was nothing progressive about that man.
The last 4 Democratic Presidents have ALL been just barely left of center - Biden, Obama, Clinton, and Carter. The last true progressive we tried to run back was in '72 against Nixon and we lost so incredibly badly that people backed FAR away from trying to run a progressive candidate…go look at the results, they’re pretty insane.
Amazing how one election 50 years ago is enough to conclude that progressives can never win elections ever, but endlessly running conservative Democrats and eating shit just means you need to tack harder right. Not to mention that Obama ran considerably to the left of any other recent democrat candidate and cleaned up.
That’s not what I said. I said that from a strategy standpoint, the support was visibly not there, hence why Democrats have run a primarily centrist/left-leaning platform for decades. It looks much more progressive now thanks to the efforts of people like Bernie and AOC, but it just wasn’t there for the last 50 or so years…and I say that as a progressive. I would love to see a progressive candidate, but the reality and the data essentially stated that platforming a progressive and running a progressive campaign is statistically a losing strategy. You can get your underwear in twist and get as snippy as you want, but your 2-bit hottake doesn’t amount shit compared to the literal decades of experience that these campaign managers have.
There’s historical precedent that supports my argument, from voter sentiment and what brings in large campaign donors, to how to try and game the electoral college. So downvote me all you want, ad hominem attack me all you want. Just because you dont like my argument doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Lastly, Obama was absolutely a centrist. He was barely left of dead center. The most progressive thing about him was that he was black. He expanded our military see drone strikes. He passed ACA which further supported private healthcare, he did nothing for marijuana rescheduling. Hell, there were more deportations under Obama than Trump. There was nothing progressive about that man.