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And then you look for a community devoted to your hobbies and the most recent post is from a year ago.
I got ya
I would post more but I got this computer yesterday and have not transferred my old meme folder yet. Ah well
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Use an app that allows blocking posts by keyword, like Voyager.
This is my list of keywords that keeps me sane while browsing lemmy:
I do the same. I still get a ton of posts like this don’t include any relevant key words and still are about musk or trump. It’s impossible to escape.
Its absolutely impossible to be on Lemmy and avoid political post even with keyword filters because keywords don’t filter on meme content, usually.
I’m on Voyager and had no idea it did this! Thanks for sharing.
I like to be informed, however I wouldn’t call whatever happens on lemmy as information sharing but more like endless ranting. I get it it is what it is but I think it is healthier to have more than one topic
On the plus side my internet usage went down because I just do news check up daily and I lose desire to use internet further
Helps a little bit.
A disturbance in the Fediverse. As if a million posts and comments cried out and were silenced.
They fixed that bug so now if someone cross posts your content and gets banned, it won’t delete your images
What’s that from? I can filter on my desktop that way via Adblock origin but not on my phone.
Lemmy custom interface. An example one is Tesseract.
Alternatively you can use Ublock filters.
“Is he team Red or team Green?”
*Little did they know that beneath his outer attire lay his blue wizard robes.*
“I mean he’s wearing boots, which is more than either of us have.”LOL
Sometimes it yearn for the days the Harlem shake was a meme, and the Numa Numa guy, and badgers badgers badgers…
And if you really want to go even farther back to the 90s and super early 2000s internet (i am talking about pre 9/11) you had Where Are The Toons Now? And peanut butter jelly time and the Mr. T vs. (Insert random opponent here). Does anyone remember when Mr. T was an internet meme? Or even Bert is evil (a 90s meme literally stopped by 9/11).
While fun stuff obviously still exists aplenty (i actually like the skibidi stuff) I just wish we could do that again. But Trump is fucking everything up so much that I can simply cannot look away. It is everywhere.
You’re the man now dog
Yeah that’s fine but you don’t need to tell us all about the continuous unraveling of your society.
Our society.
Why are there so many people assuming every lemmy user is from the USA
Sometimes its bad for mental health to continuously see all the bad things that are happening in the richest country in the world
Same as Reddit, Americans don’t seem to be able to comprehend that there are other non Americans on the internet. It’s crazy.
Bonus points for people saying ‘here, where I’m from, not in my country’, they are all from the US. Anyone who mentions where they live with zero context and assumes you understand is a yank.
It’s always funny seeing non-Americans assume that the problems of America are unique to America and that anyone talking about those problems can only be from America.
I’m not amoroncan, but unfortunately what happen there have consequences for all of us
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It’s terrible for your mental health to be constantly bombarded with “the sky is falling” news.
“the sky is falling” is implying that what’s being talked about isn’t real. The rise in fascism is very real and very global.
It would be nice if we had elected the boring president yeah.
We outside of the US didn’t even have any say in the elections and are subjected to your constant, and I mean constant political shit.
It’s all so tiring
As someone inside of the country, I’m also tired.
I feel so bad for you. Now excuse me while I go back to living inside of it.
At least you got a say in it. Not that all that many of you used your voice.
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** Stares in Turkish **
It would have been nice if 45% of the eligible voting population didn’t already check out last year. It would have been nice if there weren’t countless posts by bots on reddit saying “I really hate all this politics” in a concerted, ongoing effort to make people like OP tune out and not care.
I mean, I get that it’s hard sometimes to always see what’s happening in the world, but you have the option to turn it all off. But expecting to just get the content that appeals to your mood at the moment and lets you avoid responsibility, that’s fucking childish.
When you’re a child you can avoid the world. You’re supposed to be protected from the world. You grow up and BAM now you’re part of shit. No, you don’t get out of it. No, you don’t get to escape whenever you want. Sorry, we didn’t sign up for it either but we know what we have to do so we’re concerned about events and trying to communicate that concern so that evil doesn’t flourish. (Much further.)
It’s really easy to blame non-voters when you have the privilege of civic literacy, do not face voter disenfranchisement, do not live paycheck to paycheck, do not have a job that will fire you for ‘other reasons’ when you take off to vote, do not have an abusive spouse that will watch you fill in your mail in ballot if you vote, do not have to walk an hour away to the voting poll because you can’t drive, do not have a permanent address for a mail in ballot, so on and so forth.
Yes, there are lazy ‘I’m not political’ morons who are willfully ignorant and don’t vote. But let’s not pretend that everything about American infrastructure including car dependency, anti-homelessness laws, understaffed voting polls, centralized media and fake news, aren’t all designed to make voting harder than it should be and disproportionately target minorities.
It’s really easy to blame non-voters when you have the privilege of civic literacy
This is a helluva line I that I’m absolutely stuck on.
I don’t even know how to approach it… civic literacy as a privilege? I feel like that’s an entirely new term invented as a way of avoiding accountability tbh. I get that it’s hard to vote, and I get people who have to work all the time, but I don’t get pushback against the idea that we’re just not making the effort or trying to push through challenges for a better future. Fuck that, I don’t care. Ya’ll gonna learn one way or another what accountability means.
Getting a quality education or having parents who did is a privilege. No baby was born knowing how to vote. The vast majority of non-voters don’t even know how to start, let alone how to take time off to vote or when their mail-in ballot window is. Many might not have the required IDs and need to jump through another hoop to vote.
To non-voters, the voting process can be as daunting as getting your driver’s license the first time, except they’re doing it alone, juggling 3 jobs and raising kids. They simply don’t have the time or mental energy to go through bureaucracy and mentally keeping every deadline and paperwork in their minds.
Civic literacy is a privilege because the fact that you understand the importance of voting and know enough about the process to plan ahead of it means that you grew up in circumstances that allowed you to do so.
Calling people lazy for not voting is like calling people assholes for not buying cage-free eggs. t’s very easy to not give a shit about either when you’re living paycheck to paycheck, and it’s very easy to perceive complaints about this as virtue signalling.
You’re not getting anyone to vote by calling them lazy. Don’t be angry. Be useful and be actionable. If you actually want more people to vote, understand the systemic barriers behind why so many don’t vote, educate others on it, and make a difference.
Me who was denied an education and raised by a cult family in the wilderness for the first 20 years, and had to escape and learn everything and get an education on my own, and still somehow managed to learn the importance of voting for qualified candidates, reading this and taking notes
The election was completely fraudulent. Our country did NOT vote for this. Watching people rip each other apart over “how we voted” is painful because ALL OF IT IS FICTION.
The election was real.
The millions of contentious voices on Facebook, twitter, reddit and so on were not. They used the KGB handbook to play the basic tactic of amplifying the worst contention on both sides of literally every issue, leaving the general, moderate population absolutely checked out and uninterested in involvement.
When you don’t feel connected to your community, what do you do? You ignore it, you don’t work to better it.
While I say this was from the KGB handbook (literally) I don’t think they were the only forces at work, I think it’s just an effective tactic that everyone who wants to control or subvert the richest, most powerful nation on earth (a nation already sabotaged by “fierce individualism”) will readily employ so that democracy no longer stands between them and the prize.
When the goal is “line go up for infinity” the soil itself is a commodity that will be dug up and sold. I really feel like ya’ll still aren’t realizing what’s happening. Almost half the population didn’t get involved, and the ones who did had no media literacy or involvement in politics, as evident by the absolutely bonkers exit polling. We’re at that scene in the Die Hard sequel where the dump trucks are driving the gold out of the city.
So everything is crystal clear to you? Lmao. The election was falsified, the bots online are fake to give the fake election numbers credence. This isn’t rocket surgery. I feel like maybe you don’t understand what’s happening.
I can already tell I won’t enjoy conversing about this with you, it’s okay, have a good one.
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It seems like you’re directing this at me, and I can say that ultimately before November 5th I would have nodded my head in agreement. For basically the last 20 years I’ve been more or less obsessively following politics. I’ve voted in every election, primaries, midterms, special elections, local elections, and general. I’ve canvassed and donated. I’ve perpetually kept my eye on the news and participated in a invite-only political debate sub-reddit back in my reddit days. I’ve advocated IRL at my own workplace, risking my job security.
But now I’m verging on suicidally disinterested. After this result I want to disconnect so fucking badly. I want to check out and it feels like there is no escape. I don’t even enjoy my “escapes” like video games, movies/TV, books as much as I used to. All of it feels like a grey sludge while a radioactive fire burns the world.
And the problem is, even if things get sorted out, I will never want to care again. Even if the US fixes its major problems I will forever be disgusted with the majority of my fellow citizens and be ambivalent about most of their well being. I am permanently mentally isolated after this election. The rest of my life seems intrinsically and inescapably dimmer.
Will I care anyway? Yes eventually and inevitably, I’ll feel emotionally pulled to care. Its just how my brain works. And I will resent it. I resent it now.
It seems like you’re directing this at me,
I actually wasn’t but I do appreciate the brutally honest and non-combative reply, this is exactly the window into how the foreign and domestic forces working tirelessly to amplify contention and hate have subverted our very spirit and left us not wanting to care about anything anymore.
This isn’t entirely the fault of the population, but the population can and should at least more informed of this tactic so they don’t doom-scroll the worst clips and gifs, the pandering content, the screaming matches and “debates” and news stories from dubious outlets. We need to do this so we all take better care of our minds, this is part of the whole story… your mind is vulnerable and selfish forces will sell out your mental wellbeing and sovereignty so they can keep making line go up.
If you take care of your mind like your body, if you take care with what you put into it, it will be stronger and healthier and you can make better decisions. This is why they are attacking the very notion of “mental health” by the way. They want a depressed, checked-out population of serfs working the fields and buying the latest iPhone as soon as it lands.
You were fanatically supportive of genocide, while heaping venom and hatred on the people who oppose it; I don’t think anyone cares what you are ‘disgusted’ by. Your boos mean nothing, we’ve seen what makes you cheer.
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Americans really do think their politics is just another tv show. I’ll let you in on a secret, the problem with Trump is not that he isn’t “boring”
“May you live in interesting times” is not a blessing.
Yeah, and it doesn’t matter if the politicians overseeing those times are “boring”
Biden was boring. It was a welcome reprieve from daily scandals and, at minimum, monthly constitutional crises. Now we’re moving to weekly constitutional crises. Functional government is boring. It’s mostly bureaucratic regulatory bookkeeping.
It’s certainly possible to not be boring in a positive way, for instance if a politician is loudly advocating for radical positive change. But statistically speaking, boring is less harmful than the alternative.
That’s also why Trump was so effective at getting votes.
It’s a lot harder to argue when you’re following laws and being honest. You’re at a severe disadvantage (same as Kamala)
Trump doesn’t care about the truth, he doesn’t care about law, and because he KNOWS he can’t pardon himself for state crimes (like tax fraud in New York), despite being president, he WILL likely go to prison after his term. There is NO incentive for him to do whats right, and everything he does at this point, is driven by keeping himself out of prison.
For anyone else, civil war would be terrible. For Trump, starting a civil war means he can claim its “war time” and postpone elections. We’ve already seen how low he’s planning to stoop to.
Biden spent a year committing genocide
So did every president since Israel existed. The non-boring president didn’t stop that genocide, he blocked a lot of aid we were sending Ukraine, and unblocked a lot of aid we weren’t sending Israel. At least Biden wasn’t trying to turn Gaza into his own resort. This is objectively worse than boring Biden.
So did every president since Israel existed
I’m comfortable writing off anyone trying to claim the last year and a half in Gaza is just “business as usual” is a genocide denying fascist who would have said of the Holocaust “eh, Jews have been descriminated against in Germany for centuries”.
Like, you don’t even deserve to live, let alone have a “boring government”.
I did.
It would be nice if the boring president actually tried to win.
They did try to win. They just didn’t try to win the way YOU wanted them to. Strategically speaking, going for centrists was the right move, even if you were a progressive candidate. They assumed that they already had the left in the bag, and we’re trying to target independent and centrist votes. Nobody would have thought that the left would just…let Trump win because of some bullshit purity politics. But hey, now that the left has let a fascist into power, we won’t have to worry about voting anymore. Super smart power move progressives. A+. You played yourselves.
Strategically speaking, going for centrists was the right move, even if you were a progressive candidate.
That’s why they won in 2016 and 2024, right?
Stupid ass shit like what you just said is the kind of shit that lost to fascism twice now and look at you, still saying it! Keep going, I’m sure losing a third time will be great
now that the left has let a fascist into power
Liberals love blaming leftists when shit goes bad even when it’s their garbage ideas that got us here. Fuck right off
Lol okay. You make it sound like running a campaign is so easy. Maybe you should run the next one.
If you go with a full progressive or overtly leftist campaign you will also lose. You will gain votes from the “purity politics” left from people like you but you will lose the support of so much of the centrist/independent block.
43% of the US population identifies as independent. 27% identifies as Democrat. We don’t have a large enough voting base to win by ourselves without independent/centrist votes. If you abandon them as well, we also lose. Conservatives can always count on their base to vote for whoever… apparently we’ve learned that we can’t do that with progressives. It’s apparently our way or we sink the whole fucking boat with everyone in it. We apparently only vote for the PERFECT candidate, or we just won’t vote at all…or vote 3rd party.
You make it sound like running a campaign is so easy.
It’s not, at all. Spotting a repeated mistake IS pretty easy, though
you will lose the support of so much of the centrist/independent block
Prove it. Leftist ideas are liked by the majority of the country when asked without labels, so you’re talking out your ass.
43% of the US population identifies as independent
A lot of those are leftists who don’t associate with the DNC. I would know, I’m a member of a group of them who all get talk about politics. I’m literally a member of the group you’re claiming wouldn’t vote for a more left candidate and I’ll tell you: the majority of us would
Conservatives can always count on their base to vote for whoever… apparently we’ve learned that we can’t do that with progressives
Progressives aren’t the Democratic base, but nice try shifting the blame. Democrats are right-wing and are losing votes because of it. Look at 2024 in CA and see the millions of votes lost because they went centrist
We apparently only vote for the PERFECT candidate, or we just won’t vote at all
Either troll or so stupid you’re not worth engaging further on, just holy shit what a stupid reduction
The last 4 Democratic Presidents have ALL been just barely left of center - Biden, Obama, Clinton, and Carter. The last true progressive we tried to run back was in '72 against Nixon and we lost so incredibly badly that people backed FAR away from trying to run a progressive candidate…go look at the results, they’re pretty insane.
Amazing how one election 50 years ago is enough to conclude that progressives can never win elections ever, but endlessly running conservative Democrats and eating shit just means you need to tack harder right. Not to mention that Obama ran considerably to the left of any other recent democrat candidate and cleaned up.
If you go with a full progressive or overtly leftist campaign you will also lose.
The last time Democrats tried, they won a super majority.
centrist/independent
Notice how you’ve just assumed based on nothing that independents are all “centrists” who don’t vote Democrats because they’re too progressive. Which is wrong.
We apparently only vote for the PERFECT candidate
People don’t want to vote for people who see “actively genocidal” as “not perfect”
Yeah mate…back in 1932. I’m sure nothing’s really changed since then. And if you think we’ve had a “progressive” candidate since then… I’d LOVE to hear this hot take.
I was talking about Obama, who ran a progressive campaign.
Also, if you believe that Democrats haven’t run a progressive campaign in 90 years, you have ZERO leg to stand on saying it would lose.
So, since they did not in fact “have the left in the bag,” “going for centrists” was not, in fact, “strategically speaking the right move.” Even by your own dumbass reasoning you’re wrong.
This excuse is rolled out every time your favorite “centrists” eat shit, which is most of the time. The underlying logic that moving right is the way to win is above critique, no matter how many times it’s tried and failed. The Democratic party and their candidates and campaigns are all of course above critique, they can never fail, they can only be failed. You can only ever punch down and tell voters to change their behavior to accommodate the candidate’s positions, and never tell the candidate they should accommodate their constituents. The whole concept of democracy is meaningless at that point, just a popularity contest for which face will do the same awful shit, a game for rich sociopaths to fight over prestige and position, rather than a way for common people to have any sort of influence whatsoever over policy.
The left warned them loudly and clearly and they ignored us, as they always do. If course, we weren’t the entire reason they lost, although I wish we were, because if we have the power and will to deny them wins, then they have no choice but to give into our demands or fade into irrelevance. Exercising this power is the only possible way to make them listen, or, if they won’t listen, it’s conveniently also the way to go about creating a new party that will.
“our strategy was correct, it’s reality that was wrong.”
27% of the US voting base is Democrat. 43% is centrist.
Do you lean hard to progressive politics and abandon independents or do you try and capture centrists and hope that your voting base understands that the opponent is a literal fascist?
You. Lost.
Your strategy objectively was wrong.
Didn’t really answer the question…but okay.
Hindsight is 20/20.
If we run a full progressive candidate we will also for sure lose. But at least we’ll all feel warm and fuzzy inside that we picked a wonderful candidate. It’s a knife edge, if we want to only pander to our base, we will for sure lose support of many centrists.
You were told this before the election, repeatedly. You can invoke hindsight
If we run a full progressive candidate we will also for sure lose.
The last time the Democrats tried, they won a super majority
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Yeah, it’s not easy to ignore when the US goverment starts sending people to concentration camps and being anti-american.
Can’t just bury your head in the sand and say you don’t care about politics, because then changes will come as a surprise
" why did I get laid off without severance? oh, they rolled back labor laws.
At least I have welfare as I search for a job… oh, they took that too.
Well, next elections I’ll be voting against them. Wdym Trump is on his third term and planning a fourth one?
Why are ICE officers taking me to a plane, without due process, claiming I’m being anti-patriotic?) "
While true, not all Lemmy is american.
Yep, that’s on me. I’m just used to talk to americans when I’m met with a “I don’t care about politics”
Yeah, that “I don’t care about politics is what brought them there in the first place”, but they will never acknowledge that, instead they will just double down on their aggressive apatheism.
Sounds like their problem, not mine. They voted for it, I wouldn’t expect you to care much about British internal politics either.
While Musk and Trump were doing their thing in the US, Musk was also trying to prop certain parties around europe. Reform (UK), AfD (Germany), Vox (Spain), Lega (Italy) Their internal politics are similar to that of Germany before WW2, plus their external politics are: pulling from NATO, stopping the funding that goes to the CVE, threatening annexation of allies… so I wouldn’t be surprised if internal politics are indicative of following the path of Germany.
If UK were actively threatening allies, saying they won’t support NATO countries if they are attacked, and one of thekr citizes was close to the PM and was also trying to sway elections in the rest of europe, I’d be as concerned as you internal politics to see where you wpuld be going.
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Can’t just bury your head in the sand and say you don’t care about politics
I can actually and science proves it’s better for mental health.
Not wanting to follow donald ducks disastrous adventures isn’t burying your head in the sand IMO.
Which are topics covered by 90% of the forums here already. If you browse for memes you should be allowed to see some. instead you get AOC Simps sharing some rally.
Blocking users posting political campaigning on meme forums are now modus operandi.
Try posting that shit on the woodworking forum and see how it flies. The meme forums are poorly moderated.
Have you considered… that political memes… are memes as well? I know, crazy, right?
Have you even considered how tariffs could affect woodworking prices? The price of services to keep with the increase of the cost of living, the increase in the price of any woodworking material/tool coming from out of the US…
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A picture of a crowd with the headline AOC and Sanders gathered 35000 people this weekend is hardly a meme.
Have you considered I might be European? And I might be somewhat interested in American politics, but I’m also interested in other shit to. If Lemmy wants to succeed it will have to cater to a wider audience than the most politically engaged core.
Blocking a few users have cleansed my front page alot. I hake no issues with people discussing their political worries. Thats imoortant in any free State. What’s not important is forcing those discussions into any minor irrelevant topic.
Have you considered… that political memes… should be posted to the communities specifically for political memes? I know, crazy, right?
If someone wants to bury their head in the sand while everything burns, that’s their perogative.
Personally, I get more than enough exposure to the ongoing situation through other sources. I don’t need my haha funnies to pull double duty, and I’d argue that they’re an incredibly poor format to convey useful information for staying properly informed.
I definitely don’t need random internet asshole busybodies deciding they know my information needs better than I do.
They might not bury their head in the sand either. They might be engaged in the topics, but at the moment they just want to see what funny references exist in a non political sphere.
Yeah, it’s not easy to ignore when the US goverment starts sending people to concentration camps
You had no problem ignoring it for decades previously.
I’m a little lost as to what exactly this rebuttal is implying. Do you feel that those who willfully ignored these issues went they weren’t as dire should continue to do so as they get worse? I’m having difficulty reading this charitably so clarification would be appreciated, thanks.
Please, enlighten me about how it is as bad now as it was before, and not even worse.
“Yeah, they are sending random innocent citizens to concentration camps in mass now, but you didn’t care about it when it was certain specific innocent people to Guantanamo so you shouldn’t care about this either”
Sounds like someone who would say “all parties are the same” or “I didn’t want to vote for Kamala because the dems supported Israel”
Because foreign lives actually are worth just as American ones.
Yeah, who said otherwise?? The problem is that it’s being done en mass now, not that it’s american lives per se. Yeah, it was a problem already, but it became a bigger problem now. You can’t ignore that.
It was being en mass before. The only difference is that now it’s effecting (non African) Americans.
Sure bro
Americans when they realize they’re wrong, but are to much arrogance pieces of shit to admit it.
you might not be american but you sure do live on planet earth
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I might occasionally be accused of being political, but yes. Lemmy is no escape. Many users from any instance will jam their politics into anything and everything, constantly. It’s genuinely weathering.
You want to vibe and chill? HOW DARE YOU! DONT YOU KNOW X IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!?!?!?!?
WHY ARENT YOU MAD ABOUT X??? ARE YOU A MONSTER??
Starting to think of unsubing from technology, too often it’s about trump and musk. But it’s also one of the largest communities.
Problem when most active communities at least sometimes include US political bullshit is that few are left without it if you just want to block it. We are not all Americans, it isn’t helpful to constantly have US bullshit showing up. Hopefully as lemmy grows the smaller communities will grow and I can have a feed full of kayaking, Linux memes and homebrewing.
I mean we live in a neo nazi fasict state. It was chill during bama years
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No, it was chill for you
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When things are on fire you tend to see a bunch of smoke. Just sayin…
Unless it’s a clean burning propane
Taste the meat not the heat.
You don’t, by chance, happen to sell propane and propane accessories?
Damnit Bobby
That boy ain’t right
I’m sayin man dang’ol bobby may’nt be no pick o the litter man but he’s uh got a got good ol heart man I mean dang he got that ol charisma man if he ain’t right I mean i dang ol … don’t wanna be right.
I’ve always thought that saying was weird. If I’m specifically grilling, I want to taste the heat. The smoky aroma is what makes grilling special to me. If you just want to taste the meat, it isn’t that different to using a pan imo. That’s why I like coal grills but prefer a wood fire, though that can be unpractical for some stuff
Using a pan and a propane grill are vastly different imo. I dont dislike charcoal or wood. I think each has thier own place depending on the meal you are preparing. For example I like to make steak and chicken kabobs on a propane grill and burgers and hotdogs on a charcoal.
At the end of the day though seasoning and meat quality take center stage. So its all about what you have access to and can afford.
For me grilling is less about just food preparation and more about the different experience of using a grill and the different taste you got from it. So with propane, even though it makes food prep a lot easier and more consistent, much more convienient, it loses the taste aspect so a big part of the whole thing is missing for me. It’s all about what aspects you value and how much.
Or one of those cool decorative indoor ethanol candles
Exactly. It’s like being in a house that’s on fire, laying down for a nap, and complaining when the flames make it too bright to sleep. You can ignore it and move deeper inside the house to nap like you used to, but there’s no fire brigade this time.
You might not be political, but the Nazis are, and they don’t really mind sending non-political people to the camps.
They seem to enjoy it, in fact. Memes are important, but so is freedom to meme.
Me: Just wanting to chill and not care about politics
My Backstory: Nearly “terminated” by the CCP because of the One Child Policy. My parent’s defying the CCP is inherently political. My entire existence is literal the definition of being political.
I guess we’re doing “abortion is murder” now
A fetus is a potential person
When a mother voluntarily wants the fetus terminated its because its a health risk either physically or psychologically, you can think of this is like “self defence”.
Abortion, while it is a tragedy, is a lesser evil conpared to forced births.
Nobody likes terminating a viable fetus, but abortion is much more preferrable than having the woman suffer.
However, forced abortions, against the mother’s wishes, is just as bad, if not worse, than forced births.
Forced births and forced abortions are two sides of the same coin, government interfering in personal decisions where they shouldn’t have
If it was my mother deciding, voluntarily, at the time of pregnancy, that she didn’t want me, sure, go ahead, its probably better for the both us. A mother doesn’t have to suffer, a child never having to feel the pain of rejection by their birthparents. Win-win.
But: THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE NO SAY IN THE DECISION, NEITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE ABORTION. IT’S THE MOTHER’S DECISION
(P.S. After the birth happens, parents should never, ever, say “I wish you were never born”. Your window of decision was during pregnancy, you don’t get to say those words to hurt the kids after they were born. Either get an abortion, or live with the fact you chose to give birth to your child(ren), choose wisely.)
(P.S. After the birth happens, parents should never, ever, say “I wish you were never born”. Your window of decision was during pregnancy, you don’t get to say those words to hurt the kids after they were born. Either get an abortion, or live with the fact you chose to give birth to your child(ren), choose wisely.)
Why? You’ve already stated that unborn children deserve moral consideration as if they’re people, and that killing them is ok is it’s “psychological self defense”. You trying to set some arbitrary limit on when that’s allowed seems entirely like you just trying to have a double standard where you don’t have to take on the mantle of being anti-abortion but still want to be able to use it as a cudgel against China.
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Least deranged anti-communist
