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    7 days ago

    While the article stated that the statement was FALSE, It’s actually NOT FALSE.

    There was no housing minister in Harper’s cabinet at the time. Many housing issues got rolled into Poilievre’s domain under the title of social development. The six houses number stems from non-profit housing built by the government in the 2015-16 fiscal year, when Poiliever had the file. Under Harper, Canada had less social housing per capita than many other countries.

    Housing was under PP’s portfolio, and PP made it very small.

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      I concur, it’s not false, but it’s hard to call it true

      from radio-canada.ca

      When you include non-profit housing built by others with federal government help, it’s more like 3,742 houses.

      But it’s hard for Poilievre to take responsibility for the 200,000 homes he says were built when he was minister. In the 2015-16 fiscal year, 194,461 homes were built in Canada in total, including by private developers.

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    Mr. Poilievre is not a construction worker and did not build any houses.

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    Better article

    Poilievre pushed back at Singh for not letting him answer the question and insisted that 200,000 homes were built during his ministerial tenure.

    Both figures aren’t entirely accurate. Singh’s claim that Poilievre only built six homes as housing minister refers only to non-profit community housing units built exclusively by the government in 2015. When you include non-profit housing built by others with federal government help, it’s more like 3,742 houses.

    But it’s hard for Poilievre to take responsibility for the 200,000 homes he says were built when he was minister. In the 2015-16 fiscal year, 194,461 homes were built in Canada in total, including by private developers.

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    Housing was a lot cheaper back then. You could say he built 200k affordable houses, at least relative to now.

    NDP on the other hand in 2023 supplied cheap labor to Tim Hortons to serve par baked trans fat, which they call “small business”.

    The UN called it “modern slavery” as they live in horrible conditions on account of the existing housing shortage.

    https://www.ndp.ca/news/ndp-critic-immigration-calls-out-conservative-leader-harmful-policies

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/09/1140437

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      It’s always 1-2 month old accounts posting this kind of garbage. It’s almost like it’s timed to coincide with some noteworthy political event.

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        Was anything I said incorrect, its literally cited right there.

        I just find it rich to complain about affordable housing when Jagmeet did everything in his power to raise home values. But as a lawyer in a Rolex who drives a BMW its about what I’d expect.

        Its also not even the extent of it. The Federal government is also deregulating banks to extend amortizations, and buying half of all mortgage bonds to juice full recourse debt for the young. Is any of this sinking in or have you got another ad hominem retort?

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          Your “citations” do not say the things that you claim they do.

          Yes, Canada has an issue with migrants workers being treated poorly. The conclusions you draw about this are at best misinformed, and at worst downright lies.

          The CPC is using housing issues as a scapegoat. We can support our immigration markers. We have failed to do so, but the answer isn’t to halt immigration; it’s to build homes, and enact laws and policies to ensure those homes go to Canadian citizens who intend to live in them. But, as always, conservatives would rather blame brown people than solve problems. What a fuckin’ twist.

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            Just get it affordable first then, get the housing completions up. Have empathy for the poor, not for Tim Hortons.

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              “Have empathy for the poor” he says, while insisting migrants from 3rd world countries stay where they are.

              I am advocating for empathy first. You are advocating for empathy only after we have ours. Your hypocrisy is palpable.

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                Its the UN saying so a well, as I said.

                We are largely fooling these people, pretending we can support them.

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                  I have no way to respond to this both honestly and in a way that doesn’t either inherently insult your intelligence, or call you out for what I believe you are. So, on the off chance that I am mistaken about what your account is, apologies.

                  Your citations do not say what you think they say, and the conclusions you are attempting to draw from them are incorrect. You are, in no uncertain terms, using true facts to make dishonest, or simply painfully stupid conclusions. And I think your two month old account which has almost exclusively posted CPC propaganda exists to do this on purpose. Consider building a real platform focused on the needs of Canadian, instead of playing identity politics all day and seeking to tear down political opponents. But, if they did that, the CPC would be a fundamentally different party, so I clearly am asking for too much.

                  Stop insulting the intelligence of Canadians everywhere with these inane attempts to mislead us, and fuck off.

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          But as a lawyer in a Rolex who drives a BMW its about what I’d expect.

          You’re just jealous because he’s educated and has more money than you do.

          Keep on whining buddy boy.

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            Such a great capitalist he is. He clearly won the game of life and he really likes to flaunt it.