Canada should send a whole shitload of fuel down to Cuba. Haven’t we been enjoying relatively cheap vacations for decades from this country? It’s time to give back.
Pretty sure Cuba profited from CDN tourism.
Cuba as a country, sure. Individual people, not as much as they should.
thousands of jobs.
The stage is set for Cuba to import solar panels and EVs from China as never before.
Cuba already has 25 solar farms completed in 2025. you can’t run a 1950s Chevy or a jet on solar power.
Oh, I “forgot” you needed me to spell it out more loudly:
“The stage is set for Cuba to import solar panels and EVs from China as never before”.
You sound like your goal is rather to sell oil.
What they’re suggesting would be a lot easier and cheaper if we still had a nationalized oil industry.
Why stop at oil, why not forestry, mining, manufacturing, tech, real estate?
Alberta cant be the only one with their resources being redirected, wouldnt a full socialist utopia in every province be a fairer path?
Excellent point! We should do this to all our major industries
Doesn’t even have to be fully nationalized, even owning just one national oil company like Petro-Canada was so that profits stay for Canadians and we have freedom to choose to do something like this.
But isn’t that evil authoritarian communism? /s
It is… Drum roll please… Social democracy!
For young ones and new Canadians: FYI Petro-Canada was founded as a crown corporation and operated as such until 1991.
I would support this humanitarian effort.
USA would declare it an act of war.
The best advice is don’t stand in front of a speeding train even though the bridge is out ahead.
Pure fearmongering
It’s war, aimed at causing widespread suffering among civilians. We should be standing up against it. All indications so far are that we won’t do anything.
100% agree. Cuba deserves aid, and we should be investigating policy and alternatives that we can use to circumvent the resource war on Cuba to help them.
you going to war with the USA with your keyboard?
You mean by contacting my elected representative to express my views about the situation and the policy positions I would like her to take wrt this issue? Yes.
An interesting historical note is that Nestle has survived and prospered despite American sanctions against it. Nestle products were widely available in Cuba when I visited - about the only ice cream novelties that were available. That’s why you will not see Smarties in an American store.
However, this may soon be a moot discussion, based on what China does next.
“China will support Cuba “in the best way possible” as the island grapples with an energy crisis following tougher measures imposed by US President Donald Trump’s administration, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson confirmed on Wednesday.”
Apparently, China is very eager to replace the Russian influence in Cuba with a Chinese influence.
It would be ironic, and perhaps even strategic, if Canada were to team up with China in a humanitarian effort to divert oil to Cuba. Canadian oil shipped to Cuba under a Chinese navy escort? Wouldn’t that shake up the 'New World Order"!!!
The Law of Unintended Consequences - the more America tries to push its weight around in Latin American countries, the more he pushes them towards China.
And while these two hegemons battle it out, Canada, as a middle power, skates right down the middle and scores. The opportunities and openings for Canada have never been greater.
… if Canada were to team up with China in a humanitarian effort …
I would agree Canada to send oil to Cuba, but Canada doesn’t need China for this. And China’s own support for Cuba doesn’t reflect ‘humanitarian effort’ but rather an attempt to gain influence in the region. Very much as the US administration, China has no interest in humanitarian assistance, they seek leverage over others to exploit them for their own goals.
Unfortunately, your viewpoint is a result of Western propaganda, not the actual reality. There is a reason why African nations now seek Chinese investment money instead of American. The Chinese lend the locals the money to build and own their own productivity, leaving the profits with the local owners. The Americans built and kept ownership of the productivity and returned all the profits to America. The Chinese are doing the same thing in Cuba. The goal of the Americans was to suck the wealth out of the world. The goal of the Chinese is to raise the standard of living of the rest of the world so there will be a market for their exports.
China can use economical pressure on the usa to allow countries to give aid to Cuba but they are selfish and self centered . Canada who is still selling weapons to the terrorist stste of israel also do it for keeping the fake image of the country wjo always stand for human rights values
Being selfish and self-centered is not always a bad thing, as a philosopher will tell you. It does not restrict one from being a philanthropist, if your goal is fame and glory.
Look at how many countries the west destroyed in the last few decades. They will continue to destroy everything where China can do business. Chinese selfishness could hurt them in the long term
Unfortunately for your position China has the resources and the wealth to build faster than America can destroy it. Look at what China has accomplished in their own country in just the last two decades. Whatever America destroys, China can rebuild ten times over. That is what the ‘other countries’ are beginning to realize, and why they are not really afraid of Trump. What China wants to do in the rest of the world is to raise the world standard of living in order to produce a larger market for Chinese exports. Yes, that is ‘selfish’, but yes, that is beneficial to the other countries. America wanted to keep the other countries impoverished, and to make really cheap goods for the American market. That is ‘selfish’, but also self-destructive. They now realize they have no export market, they do not make anything to export, now that the rest of the world has the money to buy stuff.
The Chinese make stuff, and also have the entire African market to export it to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_China
What China wants to do in the rest of the world is to raise the world standard of living in order to produce a larger market for Chinese exports
and what the west is doing is to fuel civil wars all over the countries China want to do business with . Rebuilding what the west destroyed takes decades to fix .
China is selfish because they keep ignoring how serious is the destruction of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela and the attempt to destroy Iran . The policy of non interference may seems smart in short term but not in long term. China should be clear with American do not mess with our business
Whatever the West destroys, China can rebuild in a few years. When Tesla wanted to build cars in China, it took the Chinese exactly one year from no plans and raw ground to the first car coming off the line. China may be selfish, but that selfishness is enshrined in ‘efficient’. China is well aware of the level of destruction in these countries, and is not ignoring it. Read my link. The evidence is clear and unambiguous.
China is NOT afraid to send America a very strong message. The two Michaels? Sure they were Canadian, but both had very strong ties to America. One set up the Republican connections with North Korea (Rodman’s visit with Kim), the other carried out (Democrat) George Soros’ plans through the International Crisis Group. Covered both American political parties, so it did not matter what President was in office. Chinese saying: kill the monkey, scare the dragon. Another Chinese saying: Kill with a borrowed knife.
This is already absolutely happening. The entire world is gravitating away from the US and towards China. Countries that were very cautious about China are embracing them with open arms.
The world order is not about “good” and “bad”. It is “better” and “worse”. The US is now worse. And I do not think they believe the rest of us have options.
They don’t have the cards.
I would not even say ‘better’ and ‘worse’. It is actually shaping up to be ‘worse’ and ‘less worse’. The middle countries, in their own self-interest, will seek the choice of ‘less worse’ and depend on their own population for ‘better’.
Why don’t we start with Afghanistan? The humanitarian situation there has been negatively effected by trade being cut off. That’s the only consideration, right? /s
The sad thing is, parts of Lemmy might not dislike the Taliban, either.
Is this honestly how simplistically you see the world? You think that is analogous to what people are saying? Amazing.
I’m actually criticising how simplistic this argument is.
If you don’t understand why we shouldn’t let Trump and his posse bully anyone they like in the western hemisphere, you’re more like CanadaMinus
Sure, let’s be realistic and provoke an insane Fascist with a $1T military at his disposal.
What’s he going to do, impose tarrifs?
Bomb the capital? Kidnap our leaders? Bomb boats randomly? He would never do that to another country, right?
Molon labe.
No way western propaganda makes it impossible to support any middle eastern country not already allied with the US.
Who mentioned the Middle East?
If you’re going to white knight a country, at least be able to find it on a map.
Bordering the middle east my bad I don’t care about colony borders made by racist white people in history.
Sure, like assuming Islam is a region isn’t racist. At least the people that want to bomb (the fictional city of) Agrabah don’t pretend to care about Muslims.
FWIW Iranians don’t even love being lumped in with the Arabs. Afghanistan is culturally Persian, and closer to the central Asian steppe homelands and south Asia than to the Middle East.
Afghanistan also shares a border with China. Do you consider that a ‘colony borders made by racist white people in history’?
Since history is full of white washing I stopped caring about history
Those who ignore history do so at their own peril, as it is bound to repeat itself.
To a good history student, they will go well beyond the whitewashing and seek the true history. It is the whitewashing that you should object to, not the history itself.
Wow, it actually does have a little panhandle squeaking past Tajikistan, I never noticed that. The fact it bordered the Soviet Union is also a big hint it may not be sunny and Mediterranean.
And, I mean, OP was the only one who brought the category up!
That little panhandle is what created the Uighur problem for China. The Americans dropped their most powerful bomb on the Taliban terrorist camps in the panhandle, who wanted to create a Uighur ISIS homeland in the panhandle independent of Afghanistan. So the Uighur ISIS terrorists fled to China, and the rest is history. The terrorists tried to make the Chinese side their own homeland, and used a ruthless terror campaign of bombings and killings to terrorize the local population, so they could make it an ISIS state. Unfortunately for them, the Chinese government had different ideas about them taking over the area. Mind you, Western news tells the story slightly differently, although the American bombing of innocent civilians in the panhandle is well documented.
