• boonhet@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    Do name a more diverse or equal place though. I know in my country you get stared down hard if you dare be too dark skinned. Same goes for many European AND Asian countries (imagine being a black tourist in Japan lmao, they can barely stand white folks).

    Many of the older people in my country still think anyone from Africa (which by the way includes Afghanistan) is a monkey. By older I mean 50+ not even like 80 or 90.

    The UK and France are definitely more tolerant and diverse, but they also imported black people as slaves way back when, so it’s not like they’re all that much better either.

    Plus in much of Europe we still can’t stand gypsies. It’s literally the same thing as with black people in the US historically.

    The Arab countries literally import slaves from South-East Asia and Africans can’t even stand other Africans based on cultural differences.

    I don’t know, maybe South America? Uruguay nowadays is a pretty good place for everyone I hear. I wouldn’t want to be in South America in the 1900s but half of all that was US-caused anyway.

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      14 hours ago

      I don’t have to imagine being a black tourist in Japan, I can just ask the person I know who is one, right now, who says it’s fine. So is your thought experiment based on anyone’s actual experience, or just your racist stereotype of Japanese people?

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      20 hours ago

      Ok but how does any of that make it good? That’s being relativistic and we can do soooo much better than that, can’t we?

      Do better than jerking off terrible people who are only “totally awesome” because they’re not as bad as some of the other options. Nothing is forcing them to be like that so they have no excuse, and the rest of my original point still stands that your opinion based on what you enjoyed to consume as a tourist is laughably out of touch.

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        15 hours ago

        You have still failed to provide an example of a better place.

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          11 hours ago

          Yea, because that was a deflection and not what we’re talking about. You said that the US has stood for diversity but at every stage of its existence it has stood on the backs and necks of minorities and has struggled to even admit that it has a problem. Even the last admin was ok with Israel wiping out every Palestinian man, woman, and child and sure that’s across the world but if they’re chill with genocide that sets the bar LOW. And buddy have you SEEN how they disenfranchise minority voters? The gerry-mandering maps are fucking WILD. They don’t give a fuck about the people who, to them, are just cheap labour.

          Also I live in Canada which beat the US to gay marriage by 10 years and is where many black people escaped the US to. We are far from perfect but at least we had a female prime minister for a few months and a brown guy with a turban leads one of our three major parties. We also have a huge homeless problem but at least they have access to healthcare, and as far as surface-deep things like restaurants are concerned we have just as much diversity in our cities as the US does(and just as much bland, franchised nonsense out of the cities). French is our official second language but the US only has English despite all its Spanish speakers and the fact that a lot of it is straight-up old Mexican territory.