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FFTFY:
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You need to be in a better region.
Don’t we all
Fixed now?
Yes!
The fuck region are you in?
UK
I can see it fine, also UK
VPNs are cheap
Vegetables aren’t real. They made up the classification just to sell things that aren’t fruits.
Big Celery just trying to legitimize crunchy water
I could go for some refreshingly crunchy big celery right now
Maybe dipped in some oily legume seed paste that has a name including -nut but isn’t one
Same with nuts. Botanically, not a thing.
johnny is human tho
Now this a QAnon theory I can align with. #finally
Now this a QAnon theory I can align with. #finally
Now this a QAnon theory I can align with. #finally
Yeah I knew mushrooms were shady shit since when they snuck in with the badgers. Nobody batted an eye back then and look at where we are now.
I always categorized them as a snake
Why you hatin’ on mushrooms? They’re a fungi, if you get to know 'em
Big Mushroom is taking the slow play, and frankly, it’s impressive
I know this is probably a repost but the self-censorship is super annoying and has entered the lexicon in ways that can permanently damage human communication as a whole.
Yeah sure censor stuff from kid shows but we’re at the point where “unalive” and “pdf file” are being used as code words. Everyone knows what they mean, even the censors.
It’s annoying that its driven by ad revenues, and made more dumb by the fact that if everyone can decode it, then they’re still advertising over sex and violence. So the whole endeavor is pointless.
But I don’t think it will cause any harm. Humans have been using slang, code, and memetic language to obscure meaning from others and identify their in-crowds since the dawn of human language. Some of it is dumber than others, but it won’t cause any harm.
100% agree, we live in a 1984 age.
Also, using stupid words such as unalive doesn’t make any sense because the algorithm of social media companies knows exactly what it means.
Its coming from Tiktok. Bytedance has heavy word censorship and if one of your comments or videos was flagged as inappropriate and had one of those words your account would be automatically suspended for review.
So a lot of normal westerm words got flagged. Kill. Dead. Any word related to sex. Hole. (Lol) basically every curse word.
Then there are gray words like Pedophile where people think it changes the algorithm to show your videos less if they contain them, but no one has any proof from what I can tell.
I use things like “he has chosen to meet his ancestors right then and there”
There is absolutely no chance that this idiotic self censorship can permanently damage human communication.
It’s also extremely weird because people often just default to the “hidden meaning” completely ignoring context. There were so many instances where I was being shouted at for writing “CP” on the Cyberpunk subreddit, it was just weird…
There certainly are feelings associated with the fact that we can analyze the DNA of rots
Fruit has a botanical and a culinary definition.
Vegetable only has a culinary definition.
Trying to decide on what food fits which category purely on the botanical definition of fruit is silly. In many other languages, the botanical and culinary definition even use completely different words. It’s like saying lobster is red meat using a scientific definition of red.
But if we are having fun with this, rhubarb: definitely no fruit, but far too sweet, too often consumed raw or minimally processed, and far too at home in a yoghurt to fit nicely into the group vegetable.
Rhubarb’s just sour celery
But if we are having fun with this, rhubarb: definitely no fruit, far too sweet to fit nicely into vegetable.
Oh boy, another reason to hate rhubarb.
Also, you want a sweet vegetable? Sugar beet.
raw unprocessed sugar cane is delicious
it becomes somewhat interesting when fruit is differently taxed then vegetables.
As was the case in a Supreme Court Ruling:
THANK YOU
Well vegetable used to be used sometimes to mean “plant”.
Most people don’t really understand how words work.
Vegetation. It’s right there in the root lol you’re 100% correct with people not getting how words work
Having both definition of the same word that can be confused with each other is also silly, the culinary definition should find a new word.
It’s the difference between the culinary use of the word and the biological use of the word. I thought we already figured that out?
Still a fun observation in relation to mushrooms.
In terms of botany, a vegetable isn’t a thing (it’s a culinary term).
Whereas a fruit has a specific botanical term (and a culinary term).
Not everything is “one or the other”, some things are neither (Rhubarb), and some are both (tomato).
I have a simple flowchart to determine what is or isn’t a veggie:
> Can I eat it? -> Yes -> Does it come from an animal? -> No = Vegetable
Rice, my favorite vegetable.
… Is it not?
Being a grain (or even specifically a “Cereal grain”) doesn’t exclude it, see corn.
Sand has a lot of minerals in it. Probably the healthiest veggie of them all!
That’s why they call you the bread man.
Gushers are vegetables, got it.
I mostly agree, but there’s a few holes in that flowchart:
My favorite vegetables are salt and ice.
Rocks are vegetables nodnod
Behold a vegetable
Ahh Diogenes the greatest philosopher
I also add: Does it taste good?
I do this because of cranberries. I do not eat anything that you can make candles or soap from…
Fucking
Fucking
VEGETABLES DO NOT EXIST
fucking fucking
The thing is too that mushrooms don’t even cook like vegetables or even like a protein or anything. So not only are they not botanically vegetables, they aren’t even culinarily vegetables either.
Also if you don’t like mushrooms because of the texture, you’re probably cooking your mushrooms wrong.
Also if you don’t like mushrooms because of the texture,
I think mushrooms get a bad rap. People talk about the dirt they’re in being grown in feces, like it’s any different than every other crop that’s grown. Potatoes are grown up close and personal in soil too and soil isn’t clean :)
We might find there’s a flavor component like cilantro that some can taste. Or maybe they just don’t like the idea of the grown in soil and hard to clean, or maybe they don’t like that we’re eating the repuductive organs.
my brother-in-law hates them, but loves my mashed potato dish that loaded down. I just reduce mushrooms, garlic, and onions in butter until they’re about to start to get firm then blitz them to slightly chunky gravy, stir that back into refrigerated looosely smashed potatoes, with some soft butter and a little chicken bone broth. When i’m done the flavor is still there, but it’s a background note to the potato/butter/chicken
I just think mushrooms taste like shit, meh at best, not a texture thing.
I mean there’s only hundreds of them, you have tried them all right?
It’s like saying I don’t like all meat because you dislike snake jerky.
Is that just the normal ones you find at the grocery store, or have you tried other types? I think oyster mushrooms are really good when you fry them until they are crispy. Lion’s mane is really good too, I like to make vegan pulled pork with them. The flavor of some foraged ones are also amazing like chantarell and black trumpets. Chicken of the woods also tastes and kinda feels like lemony dry chicken. There’s soooo many great mushrooms
Have tried all the ones you mentioned and many more over my years, I grew up amongst old world hippies, have eaten many a mushroom, wish I had the taste for them, just don’t really. Some are def better than others, but overall I find them very meh
Morels are pretty good too. My grandma used to deep fry them.
My wife and I like to joke that vegetables aren’t real and all of them are just something else in reality.
You’re correct! “Vegetable” is a culinary term. “Fruit” is both botanical and culinary. The “tomato isn’t a fruit” nonsense comes from people trying to conflate the two; if we called botanical fruits “grunkles” we wouldn’t have this problem.
All in favor of renaming botanical fruits to “gruntled”?
Aye
Edit: God damn you, autocorrect
I’m sorry, who exactly is out here calling mushrooms vegetables??
If it goes in soup, it’s a vegetable. If it goes in Sangria, it’s a fruit.
Next question please.
Chicken and beef go in soup.
Therefore, chicken and beef is vegetables.
Checkmate, vegans!
Soup is just beef tea
Assuming you like eating chicken, when is it wrong to pair chicken with vegetables? I made a vegetable-mushroom-chicken soup last week and it was delish. Whether chicken is or isn’t a vegetable is an academic concern, not a culinary one.
Try putting mushrooms or chicken in the sangria however and you’ll be rightfully prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
Hmmm. Since breakfast cereal is demonstrably soup, that makes strawberries, Cheerios, and Reese’s Puffs all vegetables. Good to know.
Oh, fun! The debate over the culinary vs botanical meaning of fruit intersecting with the debate of culinary vs topological meaning of soup.
Breakfast cereal is soup[topological] but not soup[culinary]. It is therefore not a contradiction for it to be fruit[culinary].
As some said once, a vanilla soy latte is technically a 3 bean soup
Would it be soup or broth? Soup typically has something besides liquid to it afaik
Great word, topological.
So water, salt, cheese, meat, and noodles are all vegetables?
Water is debatable, everything else why not. If a recipe is generic enough to call for “vegetables”, you wouldn’t be wrong to include any of those things.
So a roasted chicken is a vegetable?
Is water a fruit or a vegetable
As always, science sets us free.
I absolutely call them vegetables. It’s a kitchen term and it absolutely makes sense to categorise them alongside tomatoes, beans, carrots, squash and cabbage. People get too hung up on things only belonging to exactly one category.
Seriously this whole thing is not a problem at all unless you’re somehow not familiar with words having more meaning. It’s a fruit (botanically) and not a fruit (culinary). I don’t understand how we’ve gotten like 40 years of discussion out of it at this point.
I believe, it’s a US thing. This is a quote from the official Dietary Guidelines for Americans (DGA):
Other Vegetables: All other fresh, frozen, and canned vegetables, cooked or raw: for example, asparagus, avocado, bamboo shoots, beets, bitter melon, Brussels sprouts, cabbage (green, red, napa, savoy), cactus pads (nopales), cauliflower, celery, chayote (mirliton), cucumber, eggplant, green beans, kohlrabi, luffa, mushrooms, okra, onions, radish, rutabaga, seaweed, snow peas, summer squash, tomatillos, and turnips.
Source: https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/sites/default/files/2021-03/Dietary_Guidelines_for_Americans-2020-2025.pdf (page 28)
I’ve read elsewhere that the reason for the DGA to conflate them, is because mushrooms have comparable nutrients to vegetables. So, from a dietary and regulatory viewpoint, it makes some amount of sense. But yeah, I feel like you could have just had a category “vegetables & mushrooms”.
I am American.
Take a piece of paper with 3 squares drawn on it
And hand a person a picture of an apple, tomato, pepper, cucumber, pork cutlet, and mushroom and ask them to put the pictures into the squares and then label each square
Average person will definitely label a box as vegetables and put the mushrooms in it
Well if you tell me to use only three categories and one of them will obviously be “meat”, then I won’t put them with apples.
One box labeled “Brown when cooked properly”. Then mushrooms can go in the box with the apples and cutlets.
Box labeled “burnt to a crisp” and put everything in it.
That sign can’t stop me because I can’t cook (let alone properly).
Apple, tomato, peppers, and cucumbers are all fruits
Mushrooms are mushrooms
Pork is meat
But if you give the average person those it’s much more likely they will make the categories fruits, vegetables, and meat and put mushrooms in the vegetable category
Why are we starting this scenario with the arbitrary restriction of 3? Yes, if you give people any number of items and tell them there is a finite number of categories, they were will find a way to divide those items into three. That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t come up with a more compelling argument for their choices when told to divide into 4 groups.
At no point have our options ever only been “fruit or vegetable,” but yeah I guess if you tell people those are their only choices of course they’ll adhere. But like… I’ve never known anyone who though those were the only choices?
The point is that may people will instinctually call mushrooms a vegetable
If we take that same example and add 4 categories and then add milk as another item I am still willing to bet the average person will put mushrooms as a vegetable and make the categories fruit vegetable dairy meat even though vegetables aren’t real and you could have a category of animal products.
Now if you only quiz the biology majors you might get a different result but in the U.S. only 38% of people are college educated and the most common major is business
I have no college credits and I would never call a mushroom a vegetable
Most everyone.
