• Adrius@ttrpg.network
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    2 hours ago

    This is just a toxic gender wars meme. Go outside, touch some grass, meet someone nice and move on with life. Memes like this come from and perpetuate the loneliness epidemic.

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    Boys are taught to ignore emotions (“are you crying? Man up!”)

    But emotions is what connects humans (and animals for that matter) and can’t really be ignored anyway

    Join the two… and you get loneliness, frustration, rage.

    We should start a conversation on emotional education (not only for boys but especially for boys)

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      4 hours ago

      Because nobody wants men to be emotional. When I started opening up is when my marriage started falling apart lol

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        I’ve seen no evidence that these kinds of traits are inherently biological.

        Regardless of the fact that we have significant evidence that these more “new” forms of masculinity that incorporate less domineering and aggressive mannerisms are beneficial to men, I simply haven’t seen any evidence that these traits are biological.

        In the same way that when you don’t socialize a child to prefer certain clothes or toys, (or stigmatize against them) they generally just go with what they prefer in the moment along lines that don’t match the gender binary, from what I’ve seen, the same is generally true for behaviors. We’re heavily influenced by our cultures and by extension, our upbringing, to a degree that explains why these mannerisms are commonly expressed along gendered lines.

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    Memes is now shitting on genders ? Y’all fuckers don’t know shit about empathy, and about memes either.

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    Ah, the classic generalization of men and women as singular groups where everyone acts as one.

    There are certain shitty men who objectify women and play alphas. There is the general category of men who get shitted at because of it, whether they belong to the former or not.

    Sure, being afraid of the shitty folks is a valid reason to be cautious around everyone, as you can’t easily tell one from the other. But saying that all men just made this stuff up while being total asses wouldn’t be fair or helpful.

    To be clear: there is a male loneliness epidemic driven by ever increasing caution about men overall. Men are often unfairly denied attention they need because they are seen as potential dangers by women and might be ridiculed for speaking out about their feelings by men (which, in turn, do it to protect themselves from the same treatment in an unhealthy patriarchal culture).

    This is not healthy; moreover, being in that state of loneliness and frustration is prone to radicalizing people, making sayings about dangerous men a self-fulfilling prophecy in one case, and just causing a lot of misery in the other.

    If you’re a woman, I’d suggest giving a bit of attention to the men around you. There is a million of untold stories there, and making someone open up to you for the first time is a great and rewarding experience. Or just…be there, and that will be appreciated.

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      My wife sometimes stops to compliment me because she knows men don’t often receive compliments. I always appreciate that.

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      Uh where’s the generalization here? The post didn’t say “all men” anywhere in it. It’s suggesting that people who say the first things lead to saying the later things, leading to their loneliness. Not every man is lonely… but a lot who are make everyone uncomfortable because of the shit they say.

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        Valid perspective; but I think it’s quite clearly implied given the scale of the issue. The male loneliness is real, and shouldn’t be written off as shit misogynists say, even if it was popularized by them. This kind of discarding might hurt men who have nothing to do with misogynistic talking points, opinions, or actions.

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          I don’t think the loneliness epidemic is uniquely male though. It’s an affliction of this entire generation. There is a specific subset of men that have been radicalized against women as a scapegoat for the loneliness they feel, but the true cause is increasing social alienation driven by capitalism. The specific mechanism not being limited to the commodification of our attention that has been enabled by the advent of high speed internet.

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    Are these three same guys that think that eating pussy makes you gay?

    It’s no fucking wonder they’re lonely.

    Have they tried not being assholes?

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    Yes… It’s because of the few loud-mouthed, salty, misogynists that men are generally lonely.

    Maybe if this wasn’t the attitude towards men all the time, there’d be less young boys listening to twats like Andrew Tate.

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      Or maybe if there were less young boys listening to Andrew Tate there wouldn’t be that attitude towards men?

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        Andrew Tate is so successful because there already existed the conditions to radicalise young people for quite some time.

        Cult leaders or radical leaders don’t have a platform if everyone is just fine. No-one in a healthy environment wakes up in the morning and decides “let’s start some hateful shit, because it’s just so much fun!”

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    if the problem is that men have loneliness issues i have a solution.

    it’s men, more than one, become friends.

    is there a issue with modern social alienation caused by individual atomisation? yes.

    should we focus on it? yes

    does it mean that women owe them sex? fuck no,

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    god this place is full of incels. grow a pair. real men don’t whine and blame other people. real men take responsibility and find solutions. real men have mature emotional intelligence. real men understand women’s wants and needs. real men pick up on cues and don’t make things awkward. maybe if you spent some time interacting with real people in real life, you wouldn’t be bitter.

    the meme is perfect, btw.

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    I’ll add that people aren’t being hugged, & touched enough. Also, infrastructure sucks to encourage socializing

    Its an epidemic of that. We are social creatures. That’s our main motto

    When we work together, live in groups, etc we all feel better. Reminds us of our tribe days

    A big part of human connection is being physical with each other in a chill way. So try to hug your bros more, & get things done as a unit with women!

    Both sides are supposed to be allies to each other

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      the problem is that incels focusing in that problem think that they are owed sex and attention from attractive women. when the real solution of to develop and use third spaces, and develop social connections of any kind.

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        This was a pivotal video about “nice guys” I watched growing up that imo everyone should watch.

        Favorite line:

        This is not a transaction where you walk up to the cashier and pull out your nice bucks and buy sex and romance.

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    Empathy being both a weakness and a sin…

    What more proof do you need that America is a failed state?