I did not realize they were trying to compete in the first place.

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    Steam is a platform that happens to also have a storefront. Other companies are building storefronts and hoping that’s enough.

    If you can’t provide fast downloads, cloud saves synced across devices, achievements, mod support, friends lists, and multiplayer support, it’s not a real option. Being cheaper or having some exclusives aren’t attractive. Gog already has the drm free angle to be a legitimate competitor.

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      Being consistently cheaper would actually be attractive to many people. The thing is, none of these competitors can even muster that. Steam consistently has better sales, more often. And it’s pretty funny seeing Amazon of all things not able to match or beat that. They are known for undercutting the competition, even at their own expense, just to get customers; It’s literally how they got to be as big as they are.

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        Epic kinda tried that by giving away tons of free games in the Epic Games Store. It didn’t work.

        If I want Steam games cheaper, I go buy a Steam key for that game from a separate retailer and activate it on Steam. Save like 50-70% irrespective of Steam sales. It’s remarkable that Steam allows us to even do that in the first place.

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          Epic also generated a lot of bad blood by scooping up Kickstarter projects and ordering the devs to cancel the Steam releases, releases that had already been paid for by backers. A bunch of potential customers refused to buy from Epic on principle after that.

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            I’m one of them. For all their trash talk about Steam being a monopoly, Epic Games sure pulled some hypocritical, anticompetitive shit in their attempt to replace one monopoly with an objectively worse, consumer-hostile one.

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              Epic Games is creating a monopoly in PC gaming - they keep making bad decisions and leaving Steam as the only good option

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                Look at market shares, Steam is in a monopolistic position, they can turn around and fuck up the whole market whenever they want, and people like you are encouraging it.

                You realize that they’re anti DEI over there? I don’t think drag would ever be hired by Valve!

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            Yup, that and pushing “exclusive” bs in general made sure I will never use Epic.

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              So you want all devs to just play the lottery and hope that some Twitch star picks up their game to make it popular?

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                He wants games to release on all platforms. Where is the ‘lottery’ rhetoric coming from?

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                  The Epic bros think that businesses shouldn’t have to compete on the market to sell their product, they should just get a big grant from Epic Games for making their game exclusive.

                  That’s some pretty communist rhetoric coming from a group worshipping a corporation. Epic Games are not your communist revolutionaries.

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      Steam is a platform that happens to also have a storefront.

      I would like to see government intervention to break up Steam to remedy this

      Though arguably Epic is way bigger of a platform since it goes from developer to end user

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        Steam is hardly a monopoly.

        There are plenty of successfully competing stores. The only real thing Steam has going for it is network effect that every gamer has an account therefore it’s decent for socialising, but even that is being challenged by Discord and a multitude of others.

        GamePass is probably the closest we’re seeing to a potential monopoly. The purchase of activation should never have been permitted.

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    The biggest advantage Steam has over other platforms:

    1. They’re not publicly-traded, meaning they are inclined to look out for long-term success vs. short term profits.
    2. Steam is already on their systems, and may have been for 20+ years. Nobody wants a dozen fucking game launchers and Steam already has virtually every game in existence available there. Not to mention the “community” features, friends lists, etc. Every other platform is simply too late.
    3. They have 20+ years’ experience learning what gamers want and implementing it.

    Amazon could probably compete with them if they really wanted to, but that would involve a large, long-term, consumer-centric investment, which probably isn’t a good use of their money.

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      Heroic is FOSS. They have no money, and still made a better launcher for Epic and Amazon’s games than Epic and Amazon can.

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    Tim Sweeney shit on Linux gamers enough that I refused to ever give Epic a penny

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      Gaben should sue Epic Games for monopolistic business practices - Epic keep making bad decisions that leave gamers with no good choice but Steam