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    Unpopular government shitting on minorities to shore up its popularity, aside from being morally reprehensible on its own, is literally how fascism is made.

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    I don’t see how this can be enforced without disallowing all public discourse. Maybe im reading it wrong.

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        Feels like anyone protesting with a bullhorn would be shut down. I mean whats a prayer vs whats any other talking.

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          Exactly

          And for answering my own question : catho-facist, I wish I was joking but the last public prayer in Quebec was Atalante (facist group in Quebec City) in front of the Jeanne d’Arc statue on Plaines d’Abraham and some crazy Catholic guru not far from Stu Pit (facist influencer) in Montreal sadly I don’t remember his name.

          The two times multiple call were made to the police, didn’t do shit and one time they protected the facist against a counter protest

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            Oh. That’s because Christianity is tradition.

            They’ll find an out the same way they found an out for having religious symbols in public property after bill 21.

            Teachers can’t wear religious symbols, you see? But schools, hospitals, streets, etc can have prominent religious symbols and names, I mean, if it’s Catholic it’s tradition, not religion.

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              Funnily enough (that’s not funny) there was no cross in the Assemblée Nationale (Québec Parliament) before Duplessis. One of the worst PM of the province. Each time a Quebecer is saying « that’s tradition » they’re lying to themselves

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    Who is praying in public, and why are they doing that? Seems like any god should be able to hear prayers done in private, no?

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      Usually it’s Muslims who want to get one of their mandatory prayers done in time because the prayers have set timeframes. For example if you’re only going home at night you have to do your sunset prayer somewhere and “somewhere on the side of the street” tends to be the most realistic option.

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    I hope this spreads to Onterrible. And we should also stop giving public funds to catholic schools too

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    I’ve always felt that Quebec has been on the right side of these kinds of issues. They get heat for anti-Islam rhetoric but they apply the rules to all religions, which IMO is the right approach.

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      Are you kidding me? They would have renamed all the “St” streets and neighborhoods and removed religious symbols from schools and other public buildings.

      But I live in “Ville Marie”, Mount royal has a prominent cross, streets have names like Saint Antoine. Near my house there is a public school with a huge religious statue.

      Bill 21 is not pro laicity if the state. For that I’d be in favour. But anything Catholic is “tradition” so it gets a pass.

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      On paper it might look good but I’m not convinced that’s true in practice. This one is pretty overreaching in my opinion.

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      Remember when they banned religious symbols in government buildings… except for the Catholic cross at the National Assembly?

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      Lol they don’t apply the rules to all religions… The CAQ will bend over backwards to allow Catholic stuff arguing its part of our culture.

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      In Canada freedom of religion includes freedom from it. By preaching or practicing in public you infringe on everyone else’s rights.

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        Do you actually believe that? Do you actually believe that every time you see a church or a crucifix against your will, your rights have been violated? Or is this just bad faith / sloganeering?

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          Yes, that’s the country we live in.

          It’s why there’s calls for politicians to resign whenever they mention god. (Yes there are campaigns to change the anthems)

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            I cannot tell if you are being ironic. Taking it at face value, what leads you to believe that in Canada, freedom of religion means that you have a right not to see anyone practicing religion?

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        That makes zero sense logically.

        Freedom of clothing includes freedom from clothing. By wearing clothing in public you infringe on everyone else’s rights.

        Freedom of reading means freedom from reading. By reading in public you infringe on everyone else’s rights.

        Freedom of speech means freedom from speech. By speaking in public you infringe on everyone else’s rights.

        You see? It doesn’t make any sense and is actually the opposite of freedom.

        Don’t try to argue that your prohibition as liberty. It’s nonsensical and the opposite of liberty.

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          Only one of those is a freedom

          And yes we have freedom from hate speech and misinformation.

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            I think there are some very basic words for which you use a different definition than your audience expects.